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Re: [tor-talk] TBB 3.5 and Debian Repo



Lunar:
> anonymous:
>> I would like to use the Tor broswer along with the tor and tor-arm
>> packages from the Debian repo.
> 
> I don't really understand why add extra complications and not directly
> use the Tor Browser Bundle. Why is preventing you from using the bundled
> Tor instance?
> 
> You can use tor-arm with the Tor Browser Bundle. Just issue
> `arm -i 9151` on a command-line.
> 
>> In the past it has been possible to do so by disabling the
>> tor-launcher in the start-tor-broswer script, but this no longer
>> works.
> 
> You should be able to set the environment variable `TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH=1`,
> like:
> 
>     TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH=1 ./start-tor-browser
> 
>> Can someone please explain to me what the base tor package has to do
>> with Firefox add-ons and how this would be different between debian
>> and the bundle?
> 
> Removing or adding add-ons from the Tor Browser might give to your own
> browser a specific fingerprint.
> 
>> Also, isn't it hypocritical to suggest users run a tor relay from the
>> debian package while using the TBB for browsing alongside as well?
> 
> Why would it be a problem?
> 
>> I seem to recall the project frowning upon Tor over Tor situations in
>> the past, but perhaps this has changed.
> 
> Running two instances of the tor daemon on one system will not create a
> Tor over Tor situation. There's just two distinct tor daemons. One
> acting as an “Onion Proxy”, the other as an “Onion Router”.
> 
> 
> 
thank you for the response lunar.  The skip command will indeed open the
browser but it doesn't play nicely with about:tor or the torbutton, so I
am no longer comfortable with this.

> I don't really understand why add extra complications and not directly
> use the Tor Browser Bundle. Why is preventing you from using the
bundled Tor instance?

This release is drastically different from the previous Vidalia bundled
ones.  In the past I have always found running both monitors together to
be overkill and unnecessarily taxing on my aging desktop relay.
However, since manually killing Vidalia is no longer a concern I would
agree that there seems to be no benefit to this approach.  Also, I have
been using the apt repo for so long now I never learned that arm
command, so thank you for that!



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