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Re: [tor-talk] German Laywer Sasse & Partner call to order / German Abmahnung
If you blocked the relevant ports in iptables, this legal threat is
_probably_ not related to your running of a Tor exit node but a mere
Sasse und Partner are using a company called Guardeley Ltd to trawl BT
traffic and send out scores of extortion letters. The technical accuracy
of Guardeley Ltd's methods have been questioned repeatedly by German
There are advisories pertaining to Sasse und Partner available from
several Verbraucherzentralen (Consumer Protection Association) as well as
countless legal firms. Just fire up your preferred search engine.
IANAL but would suggest not bringing your Tor exit note into this matter
voluntarily. There are plenty of solicitors available with experience
dealing with Sasse und Partner, if yours isn't you might want to look
around. Most offer a free initial consultation so you cannot really loose
anything but a few minutes of your time
Regards and Viel GlÃck
> Dear Tor Community,
> I have newly subscribed to this Mailinglist cause I have been running a
> Exit Node in Germany. End of December 2013 I got an "Abmahnung" from a
> "Sasse & Partner from Hamburg Germany" they called me to make a film
> called "Expandables 2 - Backk for War" they
> imply me to share this in Torrent Netwrok with BitComet 1.36. I never used
> this Bittorrent Client even Bittorrent itself! I know that I blocked
> Bittorrent by my IPTables firewall, but their might be traffic from the
> bittorrent Network passed thorugh my Tor Exit Gate.
> The Company Guardaley Ltd. gathered the Data and my IP-Address and the
> County Court of Cologne Germany gave them my Addresse and Personal
> I do not know how they get my IP-Address and I doubt that they read the
> traffic from my IP-Address accuratly, cause Bittorrent Clients publish
> their own IP-Address in the Bittorrent Protocoll, that is unequal the
> IP-Address where the traffic may be come from.
> I need arguments for the Answer to the Laywer and need some support from
> the Tor Community. Cause I am and feel not guilty! I haven't done
> wrong in my view, but I am the owner of my Internet Accesspoint and in
> Germany I am personally responsible for any abuses which causes from my
> Internet Access!
> I do not have an Open Wifi! I have WPA2 Encryption only with a 32
> You can write me in German as you whish!
> I would be very thankful if someone could give me a good word :)
> You do me a big favour thanks in advance!
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