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Re: more letters from the feds



 Problem still exists though, that Tor needs more exit nodes. If nobody is
willing to run an exit server the performance of the network suffers
dramatically. I personally find the performance of the network to be
almost unusable, so I choose other pay-for anonymity services. This is
not a bash of Tor or its design, but as we all know there are simply not
enough servers running to handle the amount of clients.
 Perhaps someone could draft a generic response letter to be sent to law
enforcement if a server operator is contact and post it online or even
include it in the package.

> It might be easier for you to have the tor traffic routed through a
> gateway machine and have it limit bandwidth.
>
> On 1/11/07, gabrix <gabrix@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> xiando wrote:
>> >> I think this is a valid point. I ran an exit-node for a short while
>> at
>> home
>> >> without thinking too much about it. The huge amount of traffic I was
>> >> attracting (even within minutes of booting up) made me shut it off
>> for
>> the
>> >> sake of personal convenience, but I don't think I will ever go back -
>> >>
>> >
>> > Use bandwidth limiting?
>> >
>> > BandwidthRate 45 KB
>> > BandwidthBurst 95 KB
>> >
>> > This is low, but that's all I can spare on my home ADSL, and at least
>> it
>> > contributes something. Limit your home node and it don't attract more
>> than
>> > you can spare. Also, you can lower it temporarily (the minimum is 20
>> KB)
>> and
>> > just -HUP tor if you need to upload a big file somewhere or something
>> like
>> > that.
>> >
>> >
>> >> explaining to the authorities why child porn/terrorist manuals/online
>> fraud
>> >> appear to have originated from my home IP is not an edifying
>> prospect, to
>> >> say the least.
>> >>
>> >
>> > This is something you need to consider if you're going to run a exit
>> node,
>> you
>> > may have to face legal problems running a Tor exit server. If you are
>> not
>> > willing to do it then don't. My view is that if it ever comes to that
>> then
>> > I'll just face the legal problems, for in my view it won't be a matter
>> of
>> >
>> > me vs. the state
>> >
>> > it'll be a matter of
>> >
>> > freedom (of speech) vs the state
>> >
>> > and if freedom vs the state has to be tried with my being involved
>> then
>> I'll
>> > do it.
>> >
>> >
>> >> These days I generally run a middle-man node but even that has
>> started to
>> >> feel inappropriate for home use. I would be amazed if regular
>> appearances
>> >> on directory servers does not blink wildly on some form of
>> institutional
>> >> radar, low-hanging fruit and all that.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Middle-man don't exit any traffic. If someone puts you on a list
>> simply
>> for
>> > _relaying_ encrypted traffic from A to B then that's just insane, but
>> if
>> > someone wants to do it, then go ahead. I really don't see how running
>> a
>> > middle-man node could get you into any kind of trouble (but what do I
>> know).
>> >
>> > Has anyone ever got into trouble for running a middle-man node?
>> >
>> >
>> >> * From a common-sense, peace-of-mind point of view, is running an
>> exit-node
>> >> strictly for co-located servers? Does anyone here run one at home? If
>> so,
>> >> have you had second thoughts?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I run exit nodes co-located and also on my home ADSL. I don't have any
>> second
>> > thoughts, but as said, I am aware that I may get into legal trouble
>> and
>> I'm
>> > 100% willing to face that if it comes to it - because, as said, I view
>> that
>> > as something that would be Freedom vs Tyranny, allowing Tor-servers
>> vs.
>> > forbidding them, not something that really has anything to do with me
>> (apart
>> > from my name being on the legal action because I run a tor-server, but
>> the
>> > case itself won't be me vs. the state, it'll be Tor vs. the state).
>> >
>> >
>> >> * Are tor-at-home users who run middleman servers out of the goodness
>> of
>> >> their heart possibly exposing themselves to unwanted attention? Do we
>> have
>> >> any evidence of such attention, anecdotal or otherwise?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Very good question. You'll be on the list of tor-servers, but I see no
>> > other "attention" you could get.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I had run an exit node as middle-man for about 5 mounthes and i never
>> got into any kind of legal troubble apart that normal operations like
>> browsing were impossible even bandwidth limiting
>> BandwidthRate 20KB and BandwidthBurst 20KBthe minimum possible.I hope
>> with new versions of tor , bandwidth limiting improved because when i
>> used it, it didn't seem much to work .My isp says i have a 2MB
>> connection in download but it never goes up 500KB-700KB most of the
>> time.I was really disappointed to stop my middle-man but i had to .Let
>> me know how you find bandwidth limiting  once you start because you
>> better start and try yourself , hasta siempre !!!
>>
>>
>>
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