Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

[Javier Bassi <javierbassi@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Maxim Kammerer <mk@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> Now imagine the idea Tor + open proxy gets promoted because the devs encourage that with a new option like Tor + your personal extra proxy chain... That wouldn't give Tor more credibility as it would be even harder to stop abuse form it.
>
> Don't see why a Tor user should care about Tor's credibility in this scenario.

A few thoughts on this user-->Tor-->open_proxy-->website chain. The
main reason why very few people run exit nodes is because abuse
complaints and raids.

If for example a tor exit node exiting only on port 80, could relay
all its traffic through an open proxy (or many open proxies), then the
abuse complaints will go to the open proxy admin and not to the tor
exit node admin. You would think that the open proxy admin will
redirect the abuse complain to you, or give your IP to the feds.
Maybe, but maybe not. Open proxys admins probably handle much more
abuse complaints than tor exit node admins. They will probably ignore
it. Some will not, but in the end the exit node admin will receive
much more less complaints.

This will not only help in recruiting new exit nodes but also making
some middle switch to exit. With more exit nodes the bottleneck effect
will decrease (at the expense of having a larger circuit)

About anonymity, it will be the same. Its the privacy that will get
reduced. (anonymity != privacy). Because, as hmoh said, there will be
two servers who can log and tamper your cleartext traffic. They will
not be able to tell who you are, only what are you doing. Anyway, if
you are using plain HTTP you should already assume you are having zero
privacy, using or not Tor. So its the same.
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