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Re: [tor-talk] Will Tor affect Internet Explorer? (newbie question)

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Also, today happens to be "Techno-Activism 3rd Monday," which takes
place in cities around the world.  If there's one near you, it might
be really useful to visit and explore this question in person with
peers there.  Here's a list of currently known events:

Similarly, Crypto Parties could also help, someone has already pointed
out their in-depth manual for all things security - that manual was
built from and is a resource for in-person gatherings:

Finally, https://securityinabox.org/ is a great resource (IMHO) that
provides very clear guidance, tool suggestions, and instructions on
many aspects of being secure and private.


On Monday, July 15, 2013 02:46 AM, Gabrielle DiFonzo wrote:
> Because, like I said, some things are more serious than others. When I'm reading about potentially controversial topics online, then I want my anonymity. When I'm watching Weird Al Yankovic videos to help keep me sane, it's not as important. Also, I don't have accounts with the majority of websites that people register with (Facebook, Youtube). The question is this: How would not being completely anonymous while watching "Like a Surgeon" on IE affect my anonymity while using the Tor path to get to reading about more intense subjects?
> Also, how would online shopping be affected?
> As for Tails, can someone give me a primer on that?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 10:10 am
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Will Tor affect Internet Explorer? (newbie question)
> On 13 July 2013 20:04, Gabrielle wrote:
>> So it's like a parallel highway? But both highways still remain useable?
> Yes.
>> See, what I  want to do is use IE for frivolous fun stuff
>> (Youtube, pop culture websites) and use Tor to research more serious topics.
>> What would happen if I tried to do that?
> I myself am late to the privacy philosophy - I'm using Gmail :-(  Most
> Tor users are far more serious than I am about being all anonymous,
> all the time.  The real question is this: Why do you only want
> anonymity some of the time?  I can infer that you prefer the
> convenience of Flash games and Javascript-enabled web pages.  Every
> security decision involves trade-offs, and if that's your decision,
> then there you are.
>> Also, which programs would need to be reconfigured? The only ones
>> I really use in conjunction with IE are iTunes and Adobe, and that's mostly 
> for recreation.
> You might be surprised how many programs you currently run access the
> internet.  Or even that are running without you realising it!  For an
> eye opener, download a personal firewall like Zone Alarm or BlackIce
> and set it up to ask you about every request the system makes to the
> internet.  In a very short while, you will get tired of all the
> prompts.  That's because there are many, many processes that want to
> talk to the internet - even Windows itself does it.
> This isn't intended to scare you, but to inform you.  Security is all
> about trade-offs and compromises.  If you are an activist in an
> oppressive country, I would not advise you to run any Flash-based
> game, ever.  If you're in the US, maybe the fact that they track you
> only 80% of the time is good enough for you.  Remember, your computer
> is almost constantly using the internet whether you have iTunes
> running or not.  This is why really serious people don't use the Tor
> Browser Bundle; they know that Windows is leaking personal information
> all the time.
> People here recommend Tails (https://tails.boum.org/) because it's a
> way to get the entire computer to use Tor.  Maybe, for you, the
> convenience of Flash and Javascript is just too important to give up.
> That's fine, but understand that you're trading anonymity for
> convenience.
> Try Tails for a while and see what it's like to be pretty much
> anonymous on the web.  If that's too inconvenient, try the Tor Browser
> Bundle.  You'll be better equipped to make decisions about anonymity
> vs convenience after you've tried the tools out.
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