Re: Sorbs

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> Hi Markus,

> Do you have any concrete examples or evidence of SORBS demanding a
> donation to remove servers from their published lists?  That might be an
> interesting question from a legal perspective.

> Geoff

Hi
The fine is small but annoying (50$). "You inherited the netblock or address
after your provider moved a spammer" - why to pay them for something that
you havent done (or why pay them anyway anything)?

Only proof is what I read from their website:
http://www.au.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml
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How did I get listed in the first place...? Well there are a few
possibilities:
       a.. You are a spammer who has spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
       b.. You are hosting DNS, webservices or mailservers (etc) for a
spammer that has spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
       c.. You are an innocent party that has been included in a wider
listing policy because your provider is happy to host spammer(s) that have
spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.¹
       d.. You had your machine hijacked by one or more spammers who have
spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
       e.. You have a machine with a virus or trojan that has spammed a
SORBS spamtrap or admin.
       f.. You run an unsecure mailing list that has been used to spam a
SORBS spamtrap or admin.
       g.. You inherited the netblock or address after your provider moved
a spammer.
     SORBS will not delist you without paying the 'fine' for any of these
reasons.

     ¹ If you are part of a wider netblock that is blocked you are not
required to pay the SORBS 'fine' as the entry was not generated because of
your actions, however your netblock will not be removed until your upstream
removes the spammers.



The 'fine' is US $50.00 and is designed to be small enough to so that the
home user will think twice about getting listed a second time, and small
enough to be a 'right royal pain in the butt' to any large company. The idea
being, that whether you are a multi-national company or a single home user,
you will think twice about getting relisted for any reason.
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Markus

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