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[tor-talk] E-Mail delays // Re: Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE



On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:40:07 -0700
"Asa Rossoff" <asa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Cat,
> You've been more involved in the Torr community than I over the past 10
> years; I'm only newly trying to get really actively involved, and am pretty
> much new to the scene, so you can bear that in mind.
> 
> OK, You're mail popped up on my screen at h:26 (to nbe non-specific about my
> tie zone).  you're mail timestamp is h:14.  Are clocks may be off by up to
> several minutes in opposite directions

Nope -- let's check headers, e.g. of the very first message in this thread.

Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
	[98.139.212.187])
	(using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
	(Client did not present a certificate)
	by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8048F27CFC
	for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
	Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:14:24 +0000 (UTC)

^^^^^^^^ yahoo handed it off at :14

Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A860627D36
	for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
	Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:14:24 +0000 (UTC)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eugeni.torproject.org
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org ([127.0.0.1])
	by localhost (eugeni.torproject.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new,
	port 10024)
	with ESMTP id Vr2gI1O8co-P for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
	Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:14:24 +0000 (UTC)

^^^^^^^^^ Some virus scanning here

Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10B227D63;
	Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:26:22 +0000 (UTC)

^^^^^^^^ it's already :26, but it's still traveling inside eugeni.torproject.org!!!

Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (eugeni.torproject.org [IPv6:2620:0:6b0:b:1a1a:0:26e5:480d])
	by len.romanrm.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2240320058
	for <rm@xxxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:26:26 +0000 (UTC)

^^^^^^^^ and finally my server receives the message at :26


Looking at a different message (mine), the culprit is much more obvious:

X-Greylist: delayed 589 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at eugeni;  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<----------
	Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:59:30 UTC
Received: from len.romanrm.net (len.romanrm.net [176.31.121.172])
	(using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
	(Client did not present a certificate)
	by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A03482719A
	for <tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
	Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:59:30 +0000 (UTC)                <<<<<<<<<<<<<<----------
Received: from natsu (unknown [IPv6:fd39::1e6f:65ff:fea1:3ea6])
	by len.romanrm.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B22E20060;
	Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:49:37 +0000 (UTC)                <<<<<<<<<<<<<<----------


That said however I don't see a 10 minute delay as a terrible problem, E-Mail is
not a real-time medium anyway.

-- 
With respect,
Roman

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