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Re: [tor-talk] Illegal Activity As A Metric of Tor Security and Anonymity

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 21:28:42 +0100
Mark McCarron <mark.mccarron@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have been examining the number of what would normally be deemed as illegal sites sites on Tor.  Eliminating the narcotics trade, as these tend to be intelligence agency backed enterprises, a serious decline has been noted across the board.
> This would tend to suggest that exposure is common place and users no longer feel safe.  In the more serious categories, such as child porn and violent sexual material, no functioning open sites remain and many of the sites that require registration are crippled.  The entire planet has been scrubbed.
> This, it would seem, indicates that Tor has been compromised on a global scale with very little fanfare or moves to correct the situation.
> Does anyone have any insights into the problem?

What problem?

I think you are just planting FUD, in an attempt to stifle the growth of those
very hidden services that you're trying to "protect". In almost every your
message you are repeating like a broken record: "Tor has been compromised. Tor
is dead. There is something wrong with Tor. Tor is a waste of time."

You keep hammering those like that's an accepted fact and we just "need to
stop looking for excuses", However there has been no proof of your statements
whatsoever. And no, any fluctuation in hidden service numbers, even if real,
would not "prove" that Tor is fundamentally compromised or anything of the

Such a persistent FUD campaign like yours certainly can get some .onion
operators concerned and shut down their sites. Especially if you recruit some
puppet accounts or fellow agents to "agree" with you further down the line in
this discussion.

With respect,

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