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Re: [tor-talk] Tor Project - FOIA revelation ?
Funny that the likes of TAILS sneer at, say, Linux Security because of its links to the NSA, but build an entire OS around tor, 100% government funded. The world of online security is a funny thing in this regard, much like the nasty relationship between private media interests, party political govnerment, law enforcement, et al, the latter a web of deceits and false alternatives.
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On March 2, 2018 3:35 PM, Jonathan Proulx <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:18:32PM +0100, J B wrote:
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> :https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/tor-project-almost-100-funded-us-government-report
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> FFS this is not news it is well know and established that TOR was a US
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> research project largely between US NRL (naval research lab) and MIT:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)#History
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> https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en
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> Also most research funding in the US at the time was through Defence
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> budgets. That may still be the case but the size and importance of
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> private corporate funding has been increasing (not sure that's morally
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> "better").
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> If you read anything about TOR it is clearly dual (or poly) use with
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> many conflicting even adversarial user groups BY DESIGN.
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> This is why Open Source works looks at it have lots of people look at
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> it, if anyone finds a back door or weak spot then we can talk about
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> vast conspiracies but honestly any privacy service would be an NSA
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> target (and foreign equivalents), public code review isn't perfect
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> things can be hidden or missed but it's the best you've got.
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> Do you think governments don't infiltrate "grass roots" orgnaizations
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> or something? The NSA can submit code to any opensource project
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> without revealing they are the source. Closed source is worse because
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> you'll never see and honestly any product could be wholly the work of
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> an intelligence agency front company.
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> Be suspicious as you like but there's never been a secret about who
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> started and funded this.
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> -Jon
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