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Re: Some legal trouble with TOR in France

Wiping with a magnet is absolutely useless unless you own a
professional degausser (which are large and expensive--we have one
where I work).

For some more reading on the matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degauss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence

--- Ringo Kamens <2600denver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well burning it doesn't do is completely (unless it's molten and then
> mixed
> with other stuff). You should securely wipe it with a magnet and then
> melt
> it. In this case, just wipe it about 100 times and then sell it.
> 
> On 5/13/06, Alexandru ARMEAN <alex@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > There are methods (and they are used) to read data from a
> overwritten
> > disk.
> >
> > It has to do with the age of data that has been written in a single
> > place on the disk . The process, of what i remember , involves some
> more
> > hardware methods like taking of a very small layer of the disks
> surface
> > and then try to read data.
> >
> >
> > The only 100% solution of disposing your data is to burn the disc
> (and
> > then maybe melt it). But selling it maybe also be effective in the
> given
> > case...
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 23:55 +0200, Landorin wrote:
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> > > I don't get it. Why buy a new one anyway? From what I know, any
> and
> > > every data will be lost if you format your hardisk with a safe
> method
> > > (can't remember the name right now but that method keeps writing
> > > random data to your entire hardisk to overwrite existing files
> and it
> > > does it for 10 times or more to ensure all old data is lost)?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Landorin
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric H. Jung schrieb:
> > > > If you can't afford a new hard drive, be sure to wipe it using
> DBAN
> > > > http://dban.sourceforge.net/
> > > > (open-source, free)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Ringo Kamens <2600denver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Chances are it would be internal and couldn't hold much data.
> I
> > > >> really think
> > > >> you should sell your rig and buy a used one that's comprable
> and cut
> > > >> the
> > > >> losses. It's too risky to keep it.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/13/06, Olivier Barbut <olivier.barbut@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>> thanks for the advice. I will for shure reformat everything
> and
> > > >>> reinstall linux when I get time for this. Changing hard
> drives
> > > >> would be
> > > >>> nice but I have not enough money for this right now.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Do you know what a hard drive tap could look like ?
> > > >>>> As for the tor server, I suggest that you completely wipe
> those
> > > >> drives
> > > >>>> securely, reformat, and reinstall everything. The best thing
> to
> > > >> do
> > > >>>> would be to sell those drives and buy new ones because it
> could
> > > >> be
> > > >>>> that they put taps in them. Also, they could have installed
> a
> > > >>>> keylogger. If I were you, I wouldn't use any of that
> equipment
> > > >> again.
> > > >>>> At the very minimum, you need to reinstall
> windows/linux/etc. and
> > > >> tor
> > > >>>> with a reformat because they probably put in a trojaned
> version
> > > >> of tor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - --
> > > Accelerate cancer research with your PC:
> > > http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/curecancer.html
> > >
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