Re: P2P revisited.

["Ringo Kamens" <2600denver@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well, free speech does clash with copyright so I'm not going to argue that they are abusing the network. I know I've just seen it floating around places like zeropaid, pg forums, and a few others. Can't point you directly, but do this google query:

inurl:p2psitehere.com "tor"

 

On 5/20/06, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On May 20, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Ringo Kamens wrote:

> I'm not sure if you all know this, but on most of the large
> filesharing forums, they are reccomending people use tor for
> filesharing (gnutella,ed2k, etc.) in order to increase anonymity which
> creates a HUGE network load.
Any urls? we could probably point out that that's a bad idea. And
anyone doing it is killing freedom of speech in China.
> Can an exit node owner please tell us
> approx. how much traffic he gets on these ports? (Gnutella is 6346).
>
> On 5/20/06, Watson Ladd < watsonbladd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Good point. Consider the idea abandoned.
>> On May 20, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Fabian Keil wrote:
>>
>> > Watson Ladd < watsonbladd@xxxxxxxxx> top posted:
>> >
>> >>> Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> If we created a P2P client using Tor that acted as an exit
>> node we
>> >>>> could get a lot more users, a lot more traffic, and a lot more
>> >>>> capacity, all adding to the anonymity Tor provides.  Any
>> downsides?
>> >>>
>> >>> While it could motivate some people to run Tor on their servers
>> >>> and thus adding capacity, I believe it's more likely that it
>> >>> would motivate more people to block as much Tor traffic
>> >>> as possible and lead to congestion of the network.
>> >
>> >> Who would do this blocking? Some examples would be nice. I
>> think most
>> >> ISP's don't want customers to leave instead of use their full
>> >> bandwidth allocation.
>> >
>> > ISPs which offer flatrates but don't want them to be used as such.
>> >
>> > Here in Germany many ISPs rate limit known P2P ports and are quite
>> > happy if P2P users decide to leave. Less P2P users means less
>> traffic
>> > and more profit.
>> >
>> > Fabian
>> > --
>> > http://www.fabiankeil.de/
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Watson Ladd
>> ---
>> "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
>> Temporary Safety deserve neither  Liberty nor Safety."
>> -- Benjamin Franklin
>>
>>
>>
>>

Sincerely,
Watson Ladd
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Temporary Safety deserve neither  Liberty nor Safety."
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