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Re: TOR and HADOPI

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Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
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This policy model, applied globally, may put and end to Tor. Imagine if exit nodes in every country were shut down, yet their operators were still required to pay for an Internet connection for a long period of time thereafter. Each country having their own special blend of banned activities further complicates matters.

Maybe Tor could go completely hidden.



----- Original Message ----
> From: 7v5w7go9ub0o <7v5w7go9ub0o@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:59:08 PM
> Subject: Re: TOR and HADOPI
> 
> Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
> >> Is anyone know where find an "how to use TOR against HADOPI" ?
> > 
> > Using tor to evade the French data retention and HADOPI laws is no different
> > from using tor for evading the surveillance of other police states.
> > 
> >> (Hadopi is the new law in france about P2P: if you download some music or
> >> movie with a P2P system, the provider will send you a mail to say stop; if
> >> you continue, they send a real letter and after, they stop your connexion
> >> and FINE you (and you will continue to pay provider but you will have no
> >> right to have an internet connexion :-(( )  -
> >> http://www.p2pnet.net/story/21764 - )
> > 
> > Now don't get me started about how stupid HADOPI is.
> > 
> > Under HADOPI, the ISP is required to monitor your Internet usage, at
> > their cost.  After three warnings, they are meant to disconnect you
> > while you continue paying your ISP bill.  I'm sure that's going to do
> > wonders for the ISPs' customer relations.
> > 
> > While HADOPI mandates massive surveillance of Internet users, the total
> > budget voted for enforcing it is a mere 6.7 M¤ per annum, which implies
> > that enforcement will be entirely from the ISPs' pockets.  I'm sure
> > they'll love it.
> > 
> >                                         Juliusz
> 
> The ISPs' pockets?  I'd guess they'll all quickly raise their rates an amount 
> generous enough to cover those additional costs. Heh..... only people pay taxes 
> and fees. :-)

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