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Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit





On 5/19/2016 1:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 5/19/16, krishna e bera <keb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 05/18/2016 11:40 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
I'm surprised there are no discussions or questions on tor-talk about
this issue .
Since any exploits - whether due to "flaws" in Firefox or TBB, or not -
potentially have broader implications & applications.

Normally, there'd be many comments on far less serious but important
issues.
I doubt comments are being censored.
Actually i am not surprised there are few comments from the Tor
community - maybe not smart to discuss legal strategy in the open...
See that on sl4shd0t all the time - "market testing" "think testing"
etc - unknown entity wants to know current 'think' and potential of an
idea, just throw it up on slashdot and many people chime in, giving
away their best thoughts and insights to anonymous entity without any
thought to contributing to a specific libre project. Action is
important, ideas are otherwise used by those with money in our
capitalist greed oriented instant gratification society.
Point(s) accepted. But... if it's often a better idea not to openly discuss matters involving legal or potential flaws / bugs, possibly directly affecting Tor or Firefox users, we may not follow that strategy very consistently.

"Discussing" an issue doesn't have to & shouldn't involve giving away secret / previously unannounced valuable strategies or counter measures to attacks or hacking methods. However, seems like once any software, network or best practices changes are made, the enemies will figure them out soon enough.

Even if nothing of value is given to the enemy, users on this list & elsewhere usually discuss hot topics w/ serious implications - sometimes excessively.

We discuss general ideas on topics like how to disrupt LEAs & others from identifying users of Tor & other software; how LEAs might have identified users *and* strategies on how it could be prevented or minimized. And much more. Maybe some of those discussions are really bad ideas. It just struck me as odd that this topic was one of very few when most tor-talk subscribers decided to adhere to communication silence. I haven't checked other related lists or forums.
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