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Re: [tor-talk] Tormail?



On 10.11.2011 20:45, rwd@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> On 09/11/11 15:29, Rock Neurotiko wrote:
>>
>>> Tormail have his own Webmail.
>>> And respect the security, C&P fron the TorMail web:
>>> #
>>> No emails or logs or anything important are stored on those servers,
>>> thus it doesn't matter if they are seized or shut down.
>>> We are prepared to quickly replace any relay that is taken offline for
>>> any reason.
>>> #
>>
>> This is also exactly what somebody would say if they were running the
>> service as a honeypot. If TorMail is run by anonymous operators, then we
>> don't even have their reputations to rely on.
>>
>> Are the operators really anonymous though? If you send an email from
>> TorMail to a GMail account for example, then it will contain the real
>> Internet IP address of a server which TorMail routes out from... Given
>> the IP address, it should be possible to discover the operator(s).
>>
>> --
>> Mike Cardwell https://grepular.com/  https://twitter.com/mickeyc
>> Professional  http://cardwellit.com/ http://linkedin.com/in/mikecardwell
>> PGP.mit.edu   0018461F/35BC AF1D 3AA2 1F84 3DC3 B0CF 70A5 F512 0018 461F
>>
>> __
> 
> 
> Here's some information about Tormail.net (which does lead to an onion
> address).
> 
> 02/28/2012
> Admin email address: 	whois@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Registrar: 	MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
> Status: 	active
> Locked: 	Y
> Raw whois output:
> 
> Whois Server Version 2.0
> 
> Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
> with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
> for detailed information.
> 
>    Domain Name: TORMAIL.NET
>    Registrar: MONIKER ONLINE SERVICES, INC.
>    Whois Server: whois.moniker.com
>    Referral URL: http://www.moniker.com
>    Name Server: NS1.TORMAIL.NET
>    Name Server: NS2.TORMAIL.NET
>    Status: clientDeleteProhibited
>    Status: clientTransferProhibited
>    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
>    Updated Date: 27-jul-2011
>    Creation Date: 28-feb-2011
>    Expiration Date: 28-feb-2012
> 
>>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:38:06 UTC <<<
> 
> 
> 
> Domain Name: TORMAIL.NET
> Registrar: MONIKER
> 
> Registrant [3576098]:
>         Akim Japera whois@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         TorMail Webmail Service
>         P.O. Box 5870
>         Hargeisa
>         Somaliland
> 
>         SO
> 
> 
> Administrative Contact [3576098]:
>         Akim Japera whois@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         TorMail Webmail Service
>         P.O. Box 5870
>         Hargeisa
>         Somaliland
> 
>         SO
>         Phone: +252.20025181
> 
> 
> Billing Contact [3576098]:
>         Akim Japera whois@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         TorMail Webmail Service
>         P.O. Box 5870
>         Hargeisa
>         Somaliland
> 
>         SO
>         Phone: +252.20025181
> 
> 
> Technical Contact [3576098]:
>         Akim Japera whois@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         TorMail Webmail Service
>         P.O. Box 5870
>         Hargeisa
>         Somaliland
> 
>         SO
>         Phone: +252.20025181
> 
> 
> Domain servers in listed order:
> 
>         NS1.TORMAIL.NET         79.124.90.226
>         NS2.TORMAIL.NET         95.211.130.26
> 
>         Record created on:        2011-02-28 11:56:38.0
>         Database last updated on: 2011-07-27 23:35:34.61
>         Domain Expires on:        2012-02-28 11:56:38.0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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% Information related to '95.211.127.0 - 95.211.136.159'

inetnum:         95.211.127.0 - 95.211.136.159
netname:         LEASEWEB
descr:           LeaseWeb
descr:           P.O. Box 93054
descr:           1090BB AMSTERDAM
descr:           Netherlands
descr:           www.leaseweb.com
remarks:         Please send email to "abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx" for complaints
remarks:         regarding portscans, DoS attacks and spam.
country:         NL
admin-c:         LSW1-RIPE
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person:         RIP Mean
address:        P.O. Box 93054
address:        1090BB AMSTERDAM
address:        Netherlands
phone:          +31 20 3162880
fax-no:         +31 20 3162890
abuse-mailbox:  abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx
nic-hdl:        LSW1-RIPE
mnt-by:         OCOM-MNT
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% Information related to '95.211.0.0/16AS16265'

route:          95.211.0.0/16
descr:          LEASEWEB
origin:         AS16265
remarks:        LeaseWeb
mnt-by:         OCOM-MNT
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% Information related to '79.124.64.0 - 79.124.95.255'

inetnum:        79.124.64.0 - 79.124.95.255
netname:        AIRBITESBG
mnt-routes:     MNT-POWERNET
mnt-by:         MNT-POWERNET
descr:          Powernet Ltd Assigned address space
country:        BG
admin-c:        PM9957-RIPE
tech-c:         PM9957-RIPE
status:         ASSIGNED PA
mnt-domains:    MNT-POWERNET
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         Plamen Milanov
address:        122 Ovche Pole Street, floor 3
address:        BG-1362
address:        Sofia
address:        Bulgaria
phone:          +359 2 490 1919 577
fax-no:         +359 2 490 1919 4
e-mail:         ripe@xxxxxxxxxxx
nic-hdl:        PM9957-RIPE
mnt-by:         MNT-POWERNET
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% Information related to '79.124.64.0/19AS8877'

route:          79.124.64.0/19
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origin:         AS8877
mnt-by:         MNT-POWERNET
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% Information related to '79.124.90.0/24AS13147'

route:          79.124.90.0/24
descr:          Powernet Ltd Assigned address space
origin:         AS13147
mnt-by:         MNT-POWERNET
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 dig tormail.net

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> tormail.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3663
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tormail.net.			IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
tormail.net.		3600	IN	A	94.249.139.7

;; Query time: 868 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.102#53(192.168.1.102)
;; WHEN: Fri Nov 11 09:06:02 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 45


$ whois 94.249.139.7
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% Information related to '94.249.128.0 - 94.249.255.255'

inetnum:        94.249.128.0 - 94.249.255.255
netname:        DE-GHOSTNET-20080918
descr:          GHOSTnet GmbH
org:            ORG-GG3-RIPE
country:        DE
admin-c:        GN-RIPE
tech-c:         GN-RIPE
status:         ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:      GHOSTNET-MNT
mnt-routes:     GHOSTNET-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

organisation:    ORG-GG3-RIPE
org-name:        GHOSTnet GmbH
org-type:        LIR
address:         Kaiser-Friedrich-Promenade 65
address:         61348
address:         Bad Homburg
address:         Germany
phone:           +49 6172 185025
phone:           +49 177 2681530
fax-no:          +49 6172 185029
e-mail:          ripe@xxxxxxxxxxx
mnt-ref:         GHOSTNET-MNT
mnt-ref:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by:          RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
admin-c:         GN-RIPE
admin-c:         GNSG-RIPE
admin-c:         GNSM-RIPE
admin-c:         GNLW-RIPE
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role:           GHOSTnet GmbH
admin-c:        GN-RIPE
tech-c:         GNSM-RIPE
tech-c:         GNSG-RIPE
address:        Kaiser-Friedrich-Promenade 65
address:        61348 Bad Homburg
address:        Deutschland
phone:          +49 6172 185025
fax-no:         +49 6172 185029
e-mail:         noc@xxxxxxxxxxx
nic-hdl:        GN-RIPE
mnt-by:         GHOSTNET-MNT
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route:          94.249.128.0/17
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route:          94.249.128.0/19
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