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Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown

Uhm, no. That's oversimplified.

Like someone said earlier. Only a few people arrested, but many sites down. Seems plausible that a clique of drug sellers got infiltrated/hacked and got their many darknet sites identified from the inside.

There is no "regardless of how it is actually done". "How it is actually done" is exactly the critical point, in particular if someone is trying to declare a plague on all Tor hidden services.

Another possibility, for example - we don't know how well these darknet sites were set up. If they had the same developer(s), maybe more than one of the sites had a design problem and could be made to leak (which furthermore helped lead investigators to the clique). Or maybe, an ISP went snooping in a vserver and found interesting things (root on the vserver's host can get into a lot, including extract the memory contents). There are a number of plausible possibilities as to what-went-wrong that do not fault Tor hidden services at the core.

Those times when someone loses their ass for reasons that appear to be beyond Tor itself serve as a reminder to maximize 'opsec' to the best of your ability & in a way which scales in proportion to your privacy needs. Someone doing drug sites would, in theory, have a need which scales very high. If the skill/opsec was not proportionate, well, there you go.

On 11/07/2014 04:29 PM, Ãyvind Saether wrote:
> Regardless of how it is actually done: It seems perfectly clear that > they are able to identify the servers hosting hidden services. Those > who pretend otherwise at this point are either cointelpro/military/law
> enforcement or morons.

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