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Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown

To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Öyvind Saether <oyvinds@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown
From: Elrippo <elrippo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:50:29 +0100
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Maybe, if i may pop in, it's just all about an user exploit and the money ( bitcoin ) travel.
Remember, 85% of user systems are MS based, and we all do know that this system was not built with privacy for the user mind.
If I can watch what my "zombie bot net" is doing, it is not so hard to figure this out.
In my limited knowledge, it would not be too hard to inject an application of the HS over an exploited user system.
Besides, I didn't read about TOR vulnerabilitis, I just read about global cooperation and technology which does not imply a zero day exploit against TOR HS protocol.
And yes, drug users are written on LE black boards.

Kind regards,
elrippo

Am 07. November 2014 15:29:44 MEZ, schrieb "Ãyvind Saether" <oyvinds@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29950946
>>
>> Does anyone know if this was user or operator error, or
>> vulnerabilities in application used that the FBI know about and are
>> actively exploiting? Basically does anyone how they managed to take
>> so many 'hidden' services?
>>
>> I can't believe that 400 sites all made stupid mistakes thus
>> revealing their identity. Therefore they must have had an exploit
>> that they are using to take down all these sites (either in tor or
>> some other application).
>
>"The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological
>breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the
>physical location of dark net servers"
>
>They do have the capability to locate Tor hidden services at this
>point.
>
>To those who want to pretend otherwise: The first step to fixing a
>problem is to admit that it exists. There is no point in pretending
>these .onion sites are secure anymore. The only interesting question
>now is: How can this be fixed?
>
>They could simply look for high amounts of Tor traffic and pull the
>plug in IPs whos traffic pattern look like it may be a hidden service
>and see if anything goes down.
>
>Regardless of how it is actually done: It seems perfectly clear that
>they are able to identify the servers hosting hidden services. Those
>who pretend otherwise at this point are either cointelpro/military/law
>enforcement or morons.
>
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