Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

[Jonathan Marquardt <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, luckily that's not happening yet. At least not on a large scale.

In order for that technique to really work out, all ISPs in all countries your 
Tor connection goes through would need to work together. The more 
geographically and politically diverse the countries your Tor circuit goes 
through get, the harder the tracking gets. Depending on how much of an 
orwellian world you want to imagine, it might be that some day all countries 
in Europe collaborate, for example. So it's good to have some Tor 
relays  outside of that continent. In fact, the iranian relays you recently 
were worried about, Jason, might be very helpful in such a scenario.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:23:15PM +0000, Jason Long wrote:
> Oh, You mean is that all ISPs contribute to each other?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:41 PM, juanjo <juanjo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No, your ISP can't see your Tor exit IP.
> 
> Of course, if all ISP form all the world started to log all connections 
> they could follow the path and find your original IP. This is something 
> UK is starting to do now...  and many goverments want.
> 
> 
> El 22/11/2016 a las 13:02, Jason Long escribió:
> > Thus, ISP can't see my Tor IP?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:27 PM, juanjo <juanjo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ISP can't see that the user "changed" his IP adress on Tor. What you
> > said could work on single-hop proxies or VPN, but not on Tor, remember
> > on Tor you have not one but three hops. ISP can only see you are
> > connecting to the first hop, not the remaining two (middle and exit,
> > exit is the IP that the website will see).
> >
> >
> >
> > El 22/11/2016 a las 12:48, Jason Long escribió:
> >> Hello.
> >> As "Seth David Schoen" said, Governments can see that users using tor but can't see what they are doing. My questions is that if an ISP see that an IP address, For example, 100.100.100.1 connected to the Tor network and user IP address changed to 200.200.200.1 then if the user visit a website with Tor then if the websites owners show 200.200.200.1 to the ISP then can ISP give 100.100.100.1 to the website owner?
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> 
> 
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