Re: [tor-talk] Tor in the media

[z9wahqvh <z9wahqvh@xxxxxxxxx>]

as I've asked before, I would appreciate any metrics, stats, or other data
that can back up claims of this sort, as well as means by which reporters
and researchers can assess them. I am thinking traffic in volume, not
number of applications (not numbers of newspapers, number of drug-based
sites, etc, but how many people are doing it and how much money and how
many transactions flow through them). Based on what I've seen on the Silk
Road and other sites, documents in the Ross Ulbricht prosecution, and my
own research into the size and reach of the global drug trade, I think that
Tor is now a primary conduit for world drug cartels, who practice murder,
violence, and even human trafficking at an almost unfathomable level.

I understand that the Tor community (and Tor's own websites) dismisses this
as incidental or inevitable, but I see many reasons to question this, in
part due to mistaken perceptions of the drug trade as "victimless crime"
and lack of awareness of how drug cartels and organized crime operate.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Griffin Boyce <griffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  People buy drugs online (which is incredibly stupid for several reasons),
> but that is in no way the largest use case for hidden services. Not even
> close.
>
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