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[tor-talk] New Annoucement: Qubes + Whonix 9 and more!

Since my original release of Qubes + Whonix back in late August 2014, some
interesting developments have happened that I'm excited to share with

Qubes + Whonix Primary Sources:

The primary sources of Qubes + Whonix information are located at:

- User Documentation:  whonix.org/wiki/Qubes

- Dedicated Forum:  whonix.org/forum/Qubes

Qubes + Whonix Summary:

First a summary of what Qubes + Whonix is about...

The Whonix OS (whonix.org), based on Debian, like Tails or TorVM, torifies
all of your internet traffic at an OS level, preventing remote leaks of
unique identifiers, such as your IP address, MAC address, hardware
serials, etc, designed with hardcore anonymous threat models in mind.

The Qubes OS (qubes-os.org) is a security focused, user friendly
virtualization platform, based on Xen, which offers hardcore isolation of
your system level resources and VM desktops, even helping to prevent
serious endpoint attacks, such as kernel compromises, BadUSB, Evil Maid,

Qubes + Whonix is the beautiful marriage of these two hardcore security
and anonymity focused platforms, for the aim of integrating the best in
endpoint security and internet torification. Qubes + Whonix runs as dual
VMs, inside of Qubes, isolating the Whonix-Workstation (user desktop
applications) and the Whonix-Gateway (Tor networking proxy), all within
one single host machine.

Inside Host: Whonix-Workstation --> Whonix-Gateway --> Torified Internet

You can even establish multiple Whonix-Workstations and Whonix-Gateways
for multiple independent and isolated Tor identity environments.

Qubes + Whonix News:

Now on to the news...

Whonix 9 Availability:

Whonix 9 was recently released which brought several system level
improvements over the prior Whonix 8.2, and helped us further streamline
our Qubes + Whonix implementation.

Qubes + Whonix 9 is now supported and available with step-by-step install
guides here:


New Whonix Source Code Install Guide:

In addition to our step-by-step install guide for importing the Whonix
binary images, we now offer a new step-by-step guide for installing from
Whonix source code.

This is a great option for those who would prefer not to trust binary VM
images or who would like to customize their build of Whonix.

New Whonix Qubes Forum:

At the personal request of Patrick Schleizer (Whonix founder), I have
become the official maintainer of Qubes + Whonix for the Whonix community.

Along with this, we have recently launched a new dedicated forum space for
Qubes + Whonix community, support, and development. It is being hosted as
part of the Whonix forums at:


Over the past few weeks, several people from around the world have begun
learning about, installing onto their computers, and getting excited about
the advantages of the newly combined Qubes + Whonix platform.

Feel free to come join us and help improve the Qubes + Whonix platform! :)

New ProxyVM + AppVM Development:

My initial port of Whonix to Qubes was only achieved mere weeks ago in
late August 2014. The initial focus then was just on getting it up and
running. It was a barebones implementation which included a number of
compromises. The primary compromise being that I utilized a dual
Standalone HVM (HardwareVM) architecture in Qubes for the Whonix-Gateway
and Whonix-Workstation.

I'm happy to annouce that we have an awesome contributor/developer,
nicknamed "nrgaway", who got inspired after seeing my initial Qubes +
Whonix release and is now actively working to take the architecture of
Qubes + Whonix to the next level.

The optimal Qubes architecture for Whonix is not to use dual HVMs, but,
rather to utilize the native Qubes ProxyVM + AppVM configuration.

Our new hero, nrgaway, is actively working on implementing Qubes + Whonix
as a native ProxyVM + AppVM configuration. The Whonix-Workstation will be
the desktop AppVM that connects through the Whonix-Gateway as a torifying
ProxyVM inside of the ultra secure Qubes virtualization platform.

The big benefits of this new ProxyVM + AppVM architecture will likely be:

- Easy and fast GUI-based setup of new Whonix VMs from pre-configured

- Native integration with Qubes user friendly desktop features, like:
  - Native Qubes application isolated desktop windows
  - Application shortcut menus in launcher
  - Dynamically resizable application windows
  - Secure VM-to-VM file move/copy user interface
  - Easy GUI-based start/stop of Whonix VMs

We are supporting and cheering nrgaway on in his continued awesome work to
develop this next paradigm shift for Qubes + Whonix that all of us will
greatly benefit from!

You can follow along and join us in furthering this exciting development
work in the Whonix Qubes forum here...

ProxyVM + AppVM Development thread:


Genuine Interest in Offical Qubes OS Integration:

Joanna Rutkowska (Qubes founder) has much appreciated our Qubes + Whonix

As recently annouced with their Qubes R2 final release, the Qubes team is
now officially working with an esteemed board member of the Tor Project,
privacy expert, Mr. Caspar Bowden, to further the adoption and
optimization of Qubes as a strong platform for privacy services and

And, along these same lines, Joanna has expressed interest to me for
wanting to integrate Whonix and TorVM as super simple clickable user
experiences, pre-installed and pre-configured, into the official Qubes OS
distro, for easy OS level torification.

Our above mentioned ProxyVM + AppVM development work with nrgaway will
likely be a big leap forward in further realizing this vision of Joanna's
for official integration of Whonix into the official Qubes user friendly
GUI installer.


So there you have it...

- Qubes + Whonix 9 is now available.

- A new step-by-step source code install guide, along with binay images.

- A new dedicated community forum for the Qubes + Whonix platform.

- A new paradigm of ProxyVM + AppVM architecture is being developed.

- Hardcore Whonix torification may be coming to a Qubes installer near you.

Very exciting times for Qubes + Whonix as a super secure Tor platform!
Join us! :)


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