Re: [tor-talk] One answer to the bittorrent problem . . .?

[Alec Harrington <newnotesjr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ahh, thanks. 


Btw, torrents are not about copyright circumvention despite the fact that so many use them in that manner. It's about file-sharing, which is a great and noble thing to have, especially when one has either lost or damaged a disk for a software that they have  the user-rights to use. Not only that, but it often also provides software such as driver packages to older devices that is no longer available anywhere else. It's just all around better to have a free system of file-sharing that connects people all around the world to everyone else. It provides the versatility and variety that file-sharing needs in order to be an effective tool of anyone who uses a computer. I understand how something so easily available is often used, but that's the choice of the users, not the fault of the system. That's my take. 




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> From: grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] One answer to the bittorrent problem . . .?
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>Although I don't speak for Tor, allow me to summarize...
>
>- Tor is a transport only. As a matter of both policy and law, and because
>all data along the hops is encrypted anyways by design... it has no ability
>to and will not be modifying any data in transit even if it could.
>
>- Tor has no plans to write or bundle app specific shims in the package.
>
>- Changing the addresses or accounts in apps to gibberish will
>obviously break those apps.
>
>- So long as the user sets it up properly, torrenting is both possible
>and safe already. You don't need a "communicator" shim. How to do
>that is up to the user to learn and Tor won't tell because it doesn't want
>the traffic. And even if the user does manage to set it up, it will be a poor
>user experience since inbound connections are not possible with Tor
>and fully meshed and optimal P2P requires them.
>
>- Tor may eventually add the ability to bind a socket at the exit.
>
>- Those who still insist on running torrent need to recognize the
>load their actions place on the Tor network and pay it back. Some
>estimate the cost to be roughly 7-8 times what you use. The average
>home connection doesn't have enough bandwidth to support that.
>And even if it did, the user would then have to learn to set up a relay.
>Assuming the majority of torrenter's wish to engage in copyright
>violation, they're not going to be very happy with the week (or four)
>it takes that same connection to transfer a DVD-9. So forget using
>Tor for torrenting and just buy yourself a legit VPN connection in a
>foreign country and enjoy.
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