Re: [tor-talk] VPNGate

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On 9/2/2013 4:27 AM, grarpamp wrote:
> On 9/2/13, Roman Mamedov <rm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> http://www.vpngate.net/en/
>> 
>> even running a Tor Exit node can be dangerous (even though you 
>> have bullet-proof deniability of any knowledge of the source,
>> you can still get into legal trouble)
> 
> You chose to provide last hop services (whether exit or vpn), any 
> trouble you catch does not depend on deniability of the source. 
> Further, as a transit provider, you have the generally recognized 
> provider immunity provided you follow the immunity rules.
> 
>> Insanity?
> 
> No, it's just another model... Tor exit ops are happy to run Tor 
> exits. VPNGate ops are happy to run VPN nodes. The risks and 
> services of both are known to the ops and users. Users are happy
> to use both.
> 
> I encourage them all to continue operating their unique model. The 
> world needs more models for more use cases (eg: Tor doesn't offer 
> VPN bindings or other protocols natively yet, they do). They don't 
> claim to be anything they're not and they tell you what they are.
> I don't see any droids here.
> 
>> From the looks of it all the volunteers effectively operate open 
>> proxies for anyone who connects to this service.
> 
> Works for me, where do I donate...
> 

I've been using them for a month so far. I really like the service and
even though they log for 2 weeks I use the VPN to enter the Tor
network. So all they will see is me using Tor.

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