Re: [tor-talk] VPNGate

[Nathan Suchy <theusernameiwantistaken@xxxxxxxxx>]

Most of the time if you use a Tor reduced exit policy abuse is low...

Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response...
On Sep 2, 2013 6:05 AM, "Crypto" <crypto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> On 9/2/2013 4:27 AM, grarpamp wrote:
> > On 9/2/13, Roman Mamedov <rm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> http://www.vpngate.net/en/
> >>
> >> even running a Tor Exit node can be dangerous (even though you
> >> have bullet-proof deniability of any knowledge of the source,
> >> you can still get into legal trouble)
> >
> > You chose to provide last hop services (whether exit or vpn), any
> > trouble you catch does not depend on deniability of the source.
> > Further, as a transit provider, you have the generally recognized
> > provider immunity provided you follow the immunity rules.
> >
> >> Insanity?
> >
> > No, it's just another model... Tor exit ops are happy to run Tor
> > exits. VPNGate ops are happy to run VPN nodes. The risks and
> > services of both are known to the ops and users. Users are happy
> > to use both.
> >
> > I encourage them all to continue operating their unique model. The
> > world needs more models for more use cases (eg: Tor doesn't offer
> > VPN bindings or other protocols natively yet, they do). They don't
> > claim to be anything they're not and they tell you what they are.
> > I don't see any droids here.
> >
> >> From the looks of it all the volunteers effectively operate open
> >> proxies for anyone who connects to this service.
> >
> > Works for me, where do I donate...
> >
>
> I've been using them for a month so far. I really like the service and
> even though they log for 2 weeks I use the VPN to enter the Tor
> network. So all they will see is me using Tor.
>
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