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[tor-talk] GoldBug SF projects [was: Bittorrent Bleep]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Randolph <rdohm321@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Grarpamp
> uh? The post was just, that bleep messenger is not open source and I
> would not use it.
> Instead there is firefloo as open source and it has binaries to
> download, which I evaluated. A mobile version of that would be cool,
> but I cannot compile this.
> The website seems to be run by the QXMPP developer. If you want to
> build it yourself, I think the developers added the information here
> https://sourceforge.net/p/firefloo/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/branches/0.09/Documentation/COMPILING
> or for the used library I think here
> https://sourceforge.net/p/spot-on/code/HEAD/tree/branches/0.12/Documentation/COMPILING
> as I have never compiled firefloo, I can try to do that with Qt and if
> successful provide a script after the weekend, but dont relay on me
> for that. But if possible, I send it to you. Regards

If you are able to compile a binary that sha-256 matches the
distributed binary, yes, please do make your compilation script and
platform notes available.

No, do not send it to me, send it to the list.


As to the "uh?" above ...

Search results for info on this family of sourceforge applications
are slim and don't really inspire the level of confidence this type
of crypto software would typically require... empty profiles, empty
mailing lists, no CV's, no whitepapers (there is a goldbug manual),
no presentations... no obvious email addresses... the claim to be
working with EFF and CCC... and likely the same folks mimicing TBB
below ... all of which has been said before.

You seem to be the one most familiar with the projects, only one
on the net posting about them (plus Thomas), only one to know
anything, seemingly chatting in the devel channel...
 http://sourceforge.net/p/goldbug/mailman/goldbug-forum/

More people here would like to welcome these new projects provided
they meet some of the usual community standards suitable for crypto
projects. If you (or more specificaly, whoever is behind these) are
playing anonymous or somesuch, and this cluster of projects on
sourceforge is legit, accept my apologies, I'm sure you understand
where people are coming from.

Doing a little more digging and CC'ing some potential relevants
for comment...

 Regarding firefloo ...

> The website seems to be run by the QXMPP developer.

I don't find any obvious forward references to SF from anyone
seemingly affiliated with qxmpp.

The backwards tree...

http://firefloo.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/p/firefloo/wiki/Home/
 http://qex.users.sourceforge.net/  qexmpp
 http://manjeetdahiya.users.sourceforge.net/  Manjeet Dahiya
 http://amit1097.users.sourceforge.net/  Amit Jaiswal

The forward tree...

http://code.google.com/p/qxmpp/  qxmpp at googlegroups.com
 http://code.google.com/u/manjeetdahiya/  manjeetdahiya at gmail.com
 http://code.google.com/u/jeremy.laine/  jeremy.laine at gmail.com
 http://code.google.com/u/109046035500614130948/  0xd34df00d at gmail.com

https://github.com/qxmpp-project  qxmpp at googlegroups.com
 https://github.com/manjeetdahiya
  http://manjeetdahiya.com/  manjeetdahiya at gmail.com
   http://www.cse.iitd.ernet.in/~dahiya/  dahiya at cse.iitd.ernet.in
 https://github.com/jlaine
  http://www.jerryweb.org/  a6a9316d247390d196dbdc16960648c0-1457464
at contact.gandi.net
   http://www.sailcut.com/  jeremy.laine at m4x.org 0xD2CF64921ACE2687
 https://github.com/0xd34df00d  0xd34df00d at gmail.com
  http://0xd34df00d.me/  0XD34DF00D.ME at domainsbyproxy.com
   https://plus.google.com/109046035500614130948/posts
   http://leechcraft.org/our-team


Regarding goldbug, again no obvious forward references ...

The backwards tree...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Goldbug/765809276783788
http://goldbug.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/goldbug/
  http://sourceforge.net/u/berndhs/profile/  Bernd H Stramm
  http://sourceforge.net/u/mikeweber/profile/  Michael Weber
   https://www.google.com/search?q="michael+weber"+(crypto|goldbug)
   https://www.google.com/search?q="wwwmichi at gmx.ch"

http://sourceforge.net/projects/goldbug/files/goldbug-im_WIN_1.1/GoldBug_Secure_Instant_Messeng
er_Manual_1.1.pdf/download
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GoldBug_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GoldBug_(software)

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-July/029107.html
 thomasasta at googlemail.com (Thomas Asta)
http://es.listoso.com/diaspora-discuss/2013-07/msg00013.html
https://mailman.stanford.edu/pipermail/liberationtech/2013-July/010344.html
http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gcrypt-devel/2013-July/002257.html
http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-July/047137.html
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.peer-to-peer.waste.discuss/218
https://www.mail-archive.com/otr-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg00429.html
http://marc.info/?l=openssl-users&s=goldbug
http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&s=goldbug

The forward tree...

https://launchpad.net/~bernd-stramm  bernd.stramm at gmail.com 0x4604458E
https://github.com/berndhs
https://twitter.com/berndhs
https://plus.google.com/113338680925263376814/posts
https://www.facebook.com/public/Bernd-Stramm


Regarding some of the other projects, same issues ...

http://spot-on.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/spot-on/
  http://sourceforge.net/u/textfield/profile/  Alexis Megas

"Echo Protocol"
http://pidgin.im/pipermail/devel/2013-August/023115.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_(communications_protocol)

http://bitmail.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/
  http://sourceforge.net/u/mikeweber/profile/  Michael Weber
  http://sourceforge.net/u/cholinek/profile/  Damian Cholewa
  http://sourceforge.net/u/donnico/profile/  Nicola De Filippo
  http://sourceforge.net/u/dontinelli/profile/  Don Tinelli

http://dooble.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
  http://sourceforge.net/u/textfield/profile/  Alexis Megas

http://browser4tor.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/browser4tor/
http://torbrowser.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/torbrowser/
  http://sourceforge.net/u/doobleaner/profile/  messengerfan
  http://sourceforge.net/u/sergeyvar/profile/  Sergey V

http://interface.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/interface/
  http://sourceforge.net/u/berndhs/profile/  Bernd H Stramm
  http://sourceforge.net/u/doobleaner/profile/  messengerfan

http://sourceforge.net/projects/starbeam/
 http://sourceforge.net/u/marcomu/profile/  Marco M


Someone else can search more.
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