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Re: [tor-talk] Making TBB undetectable!

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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Making TBB undetectable!
From: Jeremy Rand <biolizard89@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:44:25 +0000
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On 09/26/2015 06:38 PM, behnaz Shirazi wrote:
>> Also, if you want true undetectability you need to install a Tor 
>> instance and your OS for TBB in seperate VMs and setup the Tor VM
>> to be a transparent router for your OS, so even if
>> java/flash/exploit is executed, it doesn't leak your real IP,
>> since even your OS in the VM is forced through Tor.
> 
> No I don't talk about anonymity, I'm asking to fix detectability. 
> destination website shouldn't be able to detect user is using TBB, 
> some people think only problematic guys use TBB and Detecting it
> cause a lots of problems in different scenarios (in my own case,
> for some reasons i'm worry about QUANTUM_INSERT like programs that
> can automatically attack me if they think i'm a suspicious user)

Maybe I'm not understanding you, but given that all TBB users are
already distinguishable from other users since their IP address is a
Tor exit, I'm not seeing how TorBrowser having a different fingerprint
from other browsers is a problem.  The important thing is that
TorBrowser users have the same fingerprint as each other, which the
TorBrowser devs seem to be doing a good job on.

Cheers,
- -Jeremy Rand
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