Re: [tor-talk] Fishy MegaCorpsArchy (ie CloudFlare), and Censorship...

[TNT BOM BOM <bo0od@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you for the article.

i think if TorProject gave any space for CF, it will be the day that
Torproject draws its end.

grarpamp:
>> Fishy CloudFlare....
> 
> Noting some things others have said...
> 
> 1) Two faced CEO declares to be fighting for "free speech",
> yet goes anti and shuts down those like DS whose users
> speak unbelievable nonsense about CF, yet is freespeech.
> EFF and many others condemned this censorship.
> Censorship is rapidly spreading in part due to CF's choice.
> 2) Breaks e2e encryption by MITM browser and website.
> Everything you do with such "TLS" website is MITM'd by a
> secret closed entity you have no explicit reason to trust
> with your data.
> 2a) The list of entities in history that have been able to resist
> datamining such a global trove, and further resist selling /
> giving / renting / cracking / leaking / partnering / surveilling /
> spying / manipulating / social mind controlling / court ordering /
> etc it all away... is approximately zero.
> 3) Premeditatively chose to do 2 / 2a as a profit business model.
> 4) CF's [pre] history loves partnering with law enforcement.
> 5) Todays such "partnering" is often doublespeak for
> secret surveillance fuckery against peoples.
> 6) Involved against what some say are victimless paper
> issues of copyright trademark etc via historical partners.
> 7) Set the CF defaults to block torizens, requiring websites
> to manually configure CF to accept torizens and their
> perfectly good revenue, content, etc. Torizens lost much
> time in their quest to exist and participate with the rest
> as human beings.
> 8) CloudBleed
> 9) ...
> 
> While the individual techy projects of these megacorps may be
> interesting, advanced, useful, and even pro to whatever some
> segments might believe in, that does not excuse the responsibility
> of the internet to constantly examine and call out what
> they're doing in other areas.
> 
> Example in some investigations, balance checks, and backlash
> against them starting to rise up, ie: Facebook and others taking
> heat now for various things.
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/12/cloudflare-kavkaz-center-censorship-row
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWFX-zEYwN0
> https://www.propublica.org/article/how-cloudflare-helps-serve-up-hate-on-the-web
> https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/
> https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/16/16157710/cloudflare-daily-stormer-drop-russia-hate-white-nationalism
> http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/matthew-prince-of-cloudflare-admits-he-killed-the-internet-because-he-thinks-andrew-anglin-is-an-asshole/
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/search?q=alex+jones+censored
> 
> 
> https://onlinecensorship.org/
> 
> 
> Wait till someone says "Hey Tor and its DA's are secretly our people".
> 
> [Or whichever sueable / persecutable / censorable / arrestable
> hardly distributed network they choose to sink.]
> 
> That day is coming... become unsinkable.
> 
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