Re: STOP! LOOK! LISTEN!

[Loic Vigneras <loic@europe.tgs.com>]

Hi Adrian, Hi all.
for those who dont know me, I was a kind of graphic team leader some
time ago, and because of time I let Adrian do the good trick. I just
resubscribe recently, and dont know the exact status of the project.
 
> I don't like being the one telling everyone else to make a major architectural
> change to their project, but I feel it needs to be said before any more is done:
> 
> THE GGI DOES SOUND AND INPUT TOO!
He! He! just saw your post on ggi-list. so you have diged into it.
Yes, GGI does sound and input. Isaid it monthes ago, but no one seems to
hear me at this time (snif, boouh ;)

> 
> That is to say it is not enough for PenguinGraphics to live on top of
> GGI,  other parts of the project need to a well, otherwise we are hacking into
> places we are not allowed to be.
Yes yes yes IMHO full PenguinPlay on top of GGI is the best I can think
of. Or, as PenguinPlay is not planed for the very short time (correct me
if I'm wrong), It may be good to have a close look at Berlin which sets
on top of ggiMesa, even for windowing system, is corba compliant
transparently networked and so on...

> 
> Sound might be OK, since GGI sound support is minimal, but input is an
> integral part of the GGI.    They define a display as an output device + a
> keyboard.   GGI programs grab events from GGI.
> 
> I am not sure how well developed the GGI input stuff is, or wether it
> even supports
> joysticks yet.  PPlay input should focus on two things:
>     * Layer O wrappers for GGI input stuff.
>     * Layer P == Codeveloping GGI.
> Events should be translated from raw hardware or X events to GGI events,
> not to PPlay
> events.
> 
> The alternative would be to drop the GGI.  That would not be fun.  So I
> suggest the input
> people _at_least_  should grab the GGI, have a look at the sources and
> even join the GGI
> mailing list (although that means wading through incredible amounts of
> irrelevant mail).
well IMHO, the best way I see is, as you say, that the different team
cooperate closely with GGI people, as the ggi sound lib and the ggi
input lib need work and the PenguinPlay will benefit from this work...

Kenavo
Loig

PS: feel good to post here again
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