Re: [pygame] pygame for portable python

[Andre Krause <post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

hi René,

first, i introduce them to k-turtle, a logo variant and the probably most
easiest way to get into programming. moving that turtle on-screen and drawing
simple geometric things is quite intuitive.

then, after 4 sessions ( 1 session per week) i switch to python using python
portable. python portable is fantastic: i can put it on a network drive, they
can put it on their usb-stick and do their homeworks where-ever they like and
dont have to install anything.

after some python basics (what is the interactive command line, how to print
hello, how to add some numbers, how to calculate a mean value over numbers etc)
i just start over with turtle using pythons turtle graphics. this is good - its
a recapitulation and they might get the idea that you can do same things with
different computer languages - so it doesnt really matter what language you
actually speak.

so - i understand your point that most modules are not yet python 3 ready,
but i only use pyturtle and pygame. and its a very basic total beginners course,
 so they wont encounter any great differences between 2.x and 3.0 in codebooks,
as i only teach very fundamentals like variables, loops etc. its a course for
university freshman.

ok, long writing, short message: i would need pygame for 3.0 in about 4-5 weeks.

thank you very much !

René Dudfield wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> python 3.0 is *not* so good to teach.  Most of the available tutorials,
> and books use 2.x.  Most of the available code uses 2.x
> 
> Major modules like numpy, pyopengl, and 5000+ other modules are not
> ready for python3 yet.
> 
> It's just not ready yet (even the python developers say that).
> 
> 
> However, when are you teaching it?  We might be able to get a python3
> release of pygame ready in time.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Andre Krause <post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     dear list, i need pygame for
> 
>     www.portablepython.com <http://www.portablepython.com>
> 
>     i need it for teaching programming to total beginners. i choose
>     python 3.0.1
>     version of portable python, because it avoids some problems that
>     would confuse
>     programming beginners ( for example the integer division problem)
> 
>     later in the course i introduce pygame and let them program a very
>     simple
>     breakout like game and a baloon pop game.
> 
>     question: is pygame already compatible with python 3.0.1 ?
> 
> 
>     i tried installing the binary release:
> 
>     "pygame-1.8.1.win32-py2.6.msi ~  1.4M (python2.5.4 is the best
>     python on windows
>     at the moment)"
> 
>     would it help if i would try a svn - nightly build version ?
> 
> 
>     currently, i get the error message:
> 
> 
>     "Traceback (most recent call last):
>      File "<string>", line 248, in run_nodebug
>      File "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\herc\Eigene
>     Dateien\module1.py", line 2,
>     in <module>
>        from pygame import *
>      File "c:\PortablePython3\App\lib\site-packages\pygame\__init__.py",
>     line 70
>        raise NotImplementedError, MissingPygameModule
>                                 ^
>     SyntaxError: invalid syntax"
> 
> 
>     kind regards and thanks in advance !
> 
>