Re: [pygame] IDE ?

I'm trying out Eclipse/PyDev. It has features that I want (syntax highlighting, change bars [called Quick Diff], cross-platform compatibility, $0, viewable whitespace). So far, I hated the 100-step process to install it. I am annoyed by the "project" paradigm. (I keep related files in the same directory, and that is enough "project" organization for me, thank you very much.) I was surprised that Quick Diff doesn't work if I am editing a file that isn't part of the current "project", but at least it does work when I do things the Eclipse way.

I got used to having change bars from using UltraEdit at work. I miss change bars when I'm changing big sections of code in existing scripts, which is why I'm trying to get used to PyDev. I don't know of any other Python IDEs that have change bars besides PyDev. Does anyone?

I have tried...

UltraEdit - Very good, but expensive. I've earned a living writing thousands of lines of Python code with this. It isn't great for Python out-of-the-box, but it can be customized. I customized it to run PyChecker at the click of a button.
SPE - Great. I especially like the integrated PyChecker. PyChecker hasn't been updated for new versions of Python, and SPE had an error once that made me lose my work, so I don't use it anymore.
DrPython - Good, nice, simple. DrPython had an error once that made me lose my work, so I don't use it anymore.
Geany - Good, nice, simple. I used this to create optimize_dirty_rects.py last year.
IDLE - Not good for large scripts. Can't view whitespace.
Komodo Edit - I haven't used this much. Seems a bit complicated. I don't like the "project" paradigm, and I don't see change bars. I prefer the simplicity of Geany over this to just get things done.
Wing101 - I haven't used this much. Seems slightly less complicated than Komodo Edit. I don't see change bars. I prefer the simplicity of Geany over this to just get things done.

Jason

From: David <dvp1964@xxxxxxxxx>
To: pygame-users@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 7:02 PM
Subject: [pygame] IDE ?

This must have been asked before....

Which IDE do you like?

I'd want Free and Cross-Platform (Win/Linux).

A debugger would be very handy.

Would be beneficial if it is widely used and that it will be around a good long time.

I can't tell if they mean Eclipse/Pydev has a steep learning curve because of the installation/setup or the everyday use?

If not that, then Spider and PyScripter looked like possible candidates...

I know there are hold outs for Emacs and Vim...(Im a Vim usermyself)

but I'm asking whihc IDEs do you use and like (and if you dont use one, perhaps you know of one that many people generally use and like)

thanks.

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David
Running Linux since 1994