Re: [pygame] help: how to make a mac osx installer?

["René Dudfield" <renesd@xxxxxxxxx>]

Cool.  That's only about 140 lines of code.  So maybe 300-600 lines of
objc to replace it.  Maybe less if we don't use the SDL 1.2.8
workaround.

Also there is the (now incomplete) scrap module, that require pyobjc.
See the mac_scrap.py file.  This currently isn't working since we
changed the API of the scrap module.

So, yeah I agree - it seems a bit too much to change for now.  Unless
there are any objc hackers out there who would like to give it a go?


cu.


On Jan 25, 2008 4:36 PM, Brian Fisher <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> With respect to removing the PyObjC dependency, what the pyobjc piece
> does seems pretty straightforward and wel contained - PyObjC stuff is
> used only n the macosx.py file, and is only called from
> PyGame_Video_AutoInit in the C source. Basically the code makes sure
> that the python process can have window manager access if it doesn't
> have it with CPSEnableForegroundOperation (i.e. so you can make a
> window when run from the command-line), then it sets up the menus and
> default app icon. It also hooks up app termination to an SDL_QUIT
> message and sets up a workaround for some SDL problem that existed
> before 1.2.8.
>
> The only things that don't seem to map right back into Objective C
> code is the stuff for CPSEnableForegroundOperation and loading the
> bits of the default icon (cause the icon could be loaded from python
> pkg_resources stuff)
>
> you can see a little tidbit about what the code in question is doing
> from Bob' ippolito's blog post here:
> http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/category/python/packman/
>
> It seems worthwhile to remove the dependency, but it's enough out of
> my comfort zone right now I think I'll focus on getting installers for
> the leopard 2.5.1 python and pyobjc for a user 2.5.1 python
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 1:49 PM, René Dudfield <renesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > btw.
> >
> > I just tested that installer on another apple mac book, and it seems
> > to work (after installing pyobjc).  It's a 10.4 machine.
> >
> > Do you feel like looking into how much work removing the pyobjc
> > requirement would be?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2008 8:43 AM, Brian Fisher <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Pygame already works with both, I think the difficulties are simply in
> > > getting a working installer of the appropriate pyobjc for your
> > > python/OS version.
> > >
> > > ... also, it may actually be possible just to remove any pygame
> > > dependencies on pyobjc entirely
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 24, 2008 1:40 PM, René Dudfield <renesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > sorry.  What we probably need to do is just make pygame work with
> > > > pyobjc 2.x or 1.4x
> > > >
> > > > Which has probably been done already by Noah and the mac ports?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 25, 2008 8:31 AM, René Dudfield <renesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Maybe we could release a couple of different versions.
> > > > >
> > > > > That seems to be the easiest way forward.  But it'd be nicer for users
> > > > > if there were less files to have to choose from to download.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I know pyobc 2.x doesn't work on 10.x,  So we'd have to
> > > > > include both pyobc 2.x and 1.4.x for the python from python.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll see how easy it will be to include both pyobjc 1.4x and 2.x...
> > > > >
> > > > > cu.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 7:22 PM, Brian Fisher <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > It doesn't seem to want to install on the leopard 2.5.1 python - I get
> > > > > > the error:
> > > > > > "You cannot install pygame 1.8.0rc3 on this volume. pygame requires
> > > > > > System Python 2.5 to install."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I expect there is probably a way to make the installer accept either
> > > > > > 2.5.1 python, I think the pyglet people may have had to deal with that
> > > > > > (having the installer accept both the leopard python and a user
> > > > > > installed 2.5.1) before?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another approach would be building the pygame installer with the OS
> > > > > > python on Leopard - I haven't tried that yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >
> > > > > > also, I decided to try installing 2.5.1 from python.org, and it
> > > > > > installs fine into that one, however a simple test raises an exception
> > > > > > "ImportError: PyObjC 1.2 or later is required to use pygame on Mac OS
> > > > > > X" on import pygame. Others have said on the list that PyObjC 1.2
> > > > > > won't work on Leopard, but I think PyObjC 2.0 can be built/installed
> > > > > > from source here: http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk. So it seems
> > > > > > manageable to run on a user installed 2.5.1 on leopard, but would need
> > > > > > more work to be streamlined.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what would other Leopard users want from a pygame install? I think
> > > > > > I'd personally like to use the Leopard python for simplicity in that
> > > > > > it's a fixed target, but I imagine some people would perfer not to
> > > > > > mess with OS components?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 23, 2008 10:24 PM, René Dudfield <renesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you please try this (UNTESTED!!!) file?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  http://rene.f0o.com/~rene/stuff/pygame-1.8.0rc3-py2.5-macosx10.4.mpkg.zip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 4:57 PM, Brian Fisher <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When running the installer I get this:
> > > > > > > > "You cannot install pygame 1.8.0rc3 on this volume. pygame requires
> > > > > > > > /Applications/Autodesk/maya2008/Maya.app/Contents/Frameworks Python
> > > > > > > > 2.5 to install."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The maya part of things is rather unexpected. Also is this supposed to
> > > > > > > > work on the leopard system python? How did you install the python you
> > > > > > > > built the installer with?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2008 7:52 PM, René Dudfield < renesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I forgot to install bdist_mpkg before running setup.py bdist_mpkg
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Install this:
> > > > > > > > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/bdist_mpkg/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Then run python setup.py bdist_mpkg
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here is the resulting (UNTESTED!!!) file:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://rene.f0o.com/~rene/stuff/pygame-1.8.0rc3-py2.5-macosx10.4.mpkg.zip
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > cheers,
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> > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 1:09 PM, Noah Kantrowitz < kantrn@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > René Dudfield wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > hello,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > does anyone know how to make a mac osx installer for pygame?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How do you do it?
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> > > > > > > > > > Macports should let me do it. I'll poke in the AM.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --Noah
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