vim (www.vim.org), GNU screen (www.gnu.org/software/screen/screen.html) in an xterm, ipython (www-hep.colorado.edu/~fperez/ipython/), and a second monitor with just a text console also running screen. oh, and zsh (www.zsh.org). -- Mike Benfield ____________________________________ pygame mailing list pygame-users@seul.org http://pygame.seul.org