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Re: [school-discuss] Free-Open Baccalaureate Idea

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 05:59, David Bucknell wrote:
> Dear Ian,
> Quoting ian <ian.lynch2@ntlworld.com>:
> > Yishay Mor wrote
> > > > 
> > > > Also,  I suggest we try to interest some academic partners (I know a 
> > > > few). They can bring expertise, funding and publicity.
> > > > But we should probably have some prototype to show first.
> > David wrote
> > > Fantastic. Ian brought up the problem of the UK's national curriculum
> > aleady. I
> > > think that's all the more reason to allow folks to start on a core of
> > courses
> > > (i.e. units, lessons, texts, other) for particular age-groups/spans,
> > > developmental levels -- written broadly so they'd be easy to adapt to a
> > > particular country or locality's private standards. Not easy, but I think
> > worth
> > > doing as it would create something with which a willing teacher could take
> > and run.
> > 
> > Thinking about this, if the Bac is basically a school leaving University
> > entrance type accreditation it might be possible to accredit other
> > people's qualifications on a sort of points system. I did some work at
> > the London Institute of Education about 10 years ago on a Technological
> > Baccalaureate and allowing this type of thing was a way of shortcutting
> > the process of writing everything from scratch. There are a whole range
> > of qualifications here but Level 3 defines those associated with
> > university entrance. Normally 3 A level subjects eg maths, Physics,
> > Chemistry (Most people think this is too narrow) AVCE (Advanced
> > vocational Certificate in Education) etc. If we could get lists of other
> > qualifications recognised in other countries we could look toward
> > putting a frame work together that provided a coherent baseline of
> > breadth with certain elements of specialisation. The government here is
> > looking now at a bac system for Post 16. Perhaps an opportunity?
> > 
> > -- 
> > ian <ian.lynch2@ntlworld.com>
> > 
> This work you did and the insights you gained would definitely enable us to come
> to some sort of "core" that would be of international use. In my thinking, we
> are going from p-k up towards the bac, assuming everyone can/could go for the
> Bac if she or he were interested. Is that what you're thinking?

Not sure what age p-k is. Here we have a very structured and defined
exam system up to age 16. We could accredit bits of it but getting new
things in would be very difficult. Post 16 (16-18) there is a lot of
talk about moving to a Bac anyway so I think this has more potential.
Mind if we wanted to be really radical offering something that covered
14-19 education would possibly work accrediting combinations of subject
certifications that already exist. There would be quite a job in
researching these and finding ones that are suitable, but then less work
in doing everything from scratch. 



> David
ian <ian.lynch2@ntlworld.com>