Re: [school-discuss] FW: Microsoft Upgrade Advantage, Select Agreements(fwd)

[Matt Drew <mdrew@redhat.com>]

Both of these descriptions are fairly accurate.  The Select and Open 
Licensing are different (older, individual licenses) from the School 
Agreement (the per-all-machines licensing).  The important thing to 
realize is that Select (and Open) Licensing are going away, and the 
School Agreement will be all that is left for schools to buy.

*If* you get into Software Assurance/Upgrade Advantage now it will 
continue for a while, but eventually will run out and you will have to 
get a School Agreement (or whatever is there in 3 years).  From their 
website:

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http://www.microsoft.com/education/default.asp?ID=SoftwareAssurance

  "The Licensing 6.0 Launch Transition Period ends July 31, 2002. After 
that, the only way to upgrade your Microsoft licenses that are not 
covered by Software Assurance will be to purchase a new full license.

You can cover your existing licenses by July 31 by enrolling the 
licenses you own for current products in Software Assurance and 
purchasing Upgrade Advantage for the licenses you own for older program 
versions (non-current licenses). With Upgrade Advantage, you get the 
rights to the most current version now, and those licenses will be 
automatically rolled into Software Assurance."

*****

When they say "purchase a new full license" they mean "purchase a School 
Agreement" because Select and Open licensing are being shut down.  Your 
reseller is probably trying to get you into Software Assurance/Upgrade 
Advantage so that you will stay legal for a while, even if you don't buy 
a School Agreement (which is the only choice they really have). 
Essentially, you can avoid the School Agreement for a while, but not 
forever, which is the plan.

Matt

Doug Loss wrote:
> I'm forwarding this from Les Richardson for discussion.  I know little about
> Microsoft licensing requirements, having removed all MS software from my
> systems years ago.
> 
> ----------
> From: Les Richardson <richl@mail.tfsd.sk.ca>
> To: dloss@seul.org
> Subject: RE: Microsoft Upgrade Advantage,  Select Agreements (fwd)
> Date: Wed, Jun 19, 2002, 5:35 PM
> 
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> Are the statements below about the MS Licensing correct?
> (by Daryl Koroluk)
> 
> Please forward to appropriate list if you're not sure. (I'm not sure is
> best one....)(grin)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Les Richardson
> 
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> (from Daryl Koroluk)
> 
> Here is my understanding of the Select Licensing as outlined by our
> re-seller (Softchoice).
> 
> I am not sure which particular agreement (it sounds like MS School
> Agreement) is being referenced by Les, but general Select pricing refers to
> MS product that you buy, own and deploy. Not how many "other" PCs you have.
> 
> So if you used Star Office on 100 old PCs and then bought 100 new PCs and
> wanted to run Office XP on the new ones only, then you would "buy under
> Select" 100 copies of it.  No more no less. Then you can run that product on
> those new machines ...
> 
> Later if you decide that the new machines are getting old and that you want
> to buy more new machines and run the latest MS Office product, you leverage
> the "Upgrade advantage" to buy the Upgrade for the 100 Licenses to the
> latest version of Office. Then you put the latest version on the
> "New" machines and if you want to go and use Star Office on the "Old" ones
> then fine... You just can't run 200 copies versus the original 100 license
> bought and subsequently upgraded.
>  
> The Select pricing is not the same as the "School Agreements" which are in
> effect like a lease to deploy a spectrum of MS product over time.
> 
> Daryl Koroluk
> Manager, Information Systems
> Saskatoon Public School Division
> 310 - 21st St. East
> Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
> S7K 1M7
> email: korolukd@spsd.sk.ca
> Phone: 306-683-8338
> Fax: 306-683-8207
> 
> 
> ***********************************************
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Upgrade Advantage, Select Agreements
> 
> 
> One subtle point about the agreements.
> 
> The agreement is based on numbers of PC based computers in your
> school/division. 
> 
> Thus, if you are using labs of computers running alternative OS's like Linux
> or using them with a terminal server setup like LTSP, you still have to pay
> the "Microsoft tax", as of old.  This is, of course, an attempt to freeze
> out this growing  OS. 
> 
> So make sure you realize the computer count includes ALL PC computers even
> if you aren't running windows on them...
> 
> As well the agreement period has increased to 3 years, probably due to
> issues over schools using Star Office 6 or Open Office (SO6 is free to
> education). Again, look before leaping.
> 
> 
> Les Richardson
> H. Hardcastle School
> 
> 
> 



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