Some years back, I dated a woman who'd grown up in NYC. Sometimes, it took a while for audio input and communications to gel. Like the time she said: "we were all sitting around tokin'". "Smoking pot?" "No! "Tawkin'". In her case, I eventually worked it out. I think my first read is more apropos here. on Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:15:22PM -0800, Michael Dean (michaelldean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > I think that it is a major blunder to view any rational thrust into the > schools adaptation of Open Source as a Linux initiative. Pardon? I'm having a *hell* of a time parsing that. Have LGMs invaded your ectoderm? Did your brain take a vacation and forget to provide notice? Was it a good bottle of wine, or TJ's Two-buck Chuck? You haven't struck me as overly balanced at best here, but this is quite the leap, Michael. > Especially when schools, who are goal and objective driven, must sift > through thousands of duplicatory packages, many of dubious quality, > that comprise what I call the "kitchen sink" distros such as Redhat, > Suse, Mandrake and Debian. OK. Let's look at this. As it happens, I was just discussing distro choice at a high school computer lab this morning. Much of the substance is being worked into a page I'm putting together WRT choosing a GNU/Linux distro. http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/GNU/Linux/linux-new.html Short answer for the moment is: "probably Ubuntu". First: the nice thing about kitchen-sink distros is that if you want to try a particular bit of software, odds are good it's already there. Mind, with a Debian based system, if it's _not_ already there, getting it there is pretty straightforward. Your objection transferred to libraries would read something like: I think that it is a major blunder to view any rational thrust into the schools adaptation of a library as a teaching initiative. Especially when schools, who are goal and objective driven, must sift through thousand of duplicatory books, many of dubious quality, that comprise what I call the "kitchen sink" subjects such as History, Culture, Biology, and Architecture. Um. The Computer. Is. A. Tool. Curriculum _is_ goal oriented. Identify your goals. Pick your tools. Proceed. Actually, I'm going through this process ATM, having sort of dropped out of the sky to assist in an existing class. Fortunately I'm both well-received and am being given a lot of leeway. > We must, instead look at open source as a collection of tools to bbe > selected from the perspective of the teachers and admins. Um. Like, duh! However: the selection of tools is *not* orthogonal to "kitchen sink" distros. Unless you're describing something quite different from what you appear to be writing. Perhaps a theosophical deconstruction of pre-Edwardian croquet? > We must Oh yes, absolutely. We _must_. Imperative. Spare me. And the air. And think of the seals! > produce an Educational System which is based on a minimalist, goal > driven philosophy. That's some primer fertilizer you've got going Michael? How about starting a tomato garden? > FreeBSD would work equally well in schools, and it has a more rational > license. Cap'n! I don't think I canna hold her tagether much longer! She's breakin' up! Breath deeply, Michael. Try a paper bag. If you're trying to say anything remotely close to what you _are_ saying, I think you've just grossly mistaken a curriculum for a distro. > I am collecting papers for an edited books on Transforming Schools > Through Goal Driven Open Source Software. Please do us a favor: burn them. While you're at it, providing a co-gen facility would provide a social benefit. > Any educator, or professional who can produce any > contribution to this title would be welcome to submit. Oh dear. Submission. Nay! Resist! > Thanks you. Thanks *you*. Might favor you've done us. Cheerio. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <kmself@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? I think to be successful a DOS update has to...match the garbage that DR DOS does. - Bill Gates, Mar 6, 1992. Innovating, as usual.
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