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Re: [school-discuss] FOSS and FOOD [Was Re: "Educating Tux" + IT apathy]
I love your modified version!! :)
Good luck with your conference,
Quoting Bryant Patten <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Marilyn -
> Add me to the list of people that think your banquet analogy is
> Next week I am speaking about FOSS and education at MassCue and a
> couple of weeks after that I am running Vermont's first Open Source
> and Education conference and I would like to use your analogy in both
> places. I was thinking about modifying in the following way:
> "Using Open Source in Schools can be a bit surreal - imagine the
> It is lunch time at your school and all the kids troop down to the
> dining hall, which is divided in half with a large glass wall down
> the middle. On one side, the majority of students are charged for a
> lunch of mystery meat and instant mash potatoes. On the other side
> is a huge buffet of amazing international foods that is all you can
> eat and free. Standing at the entrance to the dining hall is the
> Assistant Superintendent for Technology, telling everyone that they
> must go into the mystery meat room. Occasionally, someone will find
> a worm or some other horrible thing in the meat, complain loudly,
> dump the plate and then...surreally...get right back in line for
> another serving.
> Because some students notice what is happening on the other side of
> the glass wall, they ask if they can go into that room. They are
> told no, because most of the world eats mystery meat, there might be
> spices in the foreign food and besides, they just put salt and pepper
> in the mystery meat so it is really better now. The more determined
> of the kids wait until the Ass. Sup. of Tech is distracted and sneak
> into room, enjoy a fabulous lunch and start telling their friends
> about it on the playground. So the next day, their friends sneak
> Thanks for the great post.
> Bryant Patten
> Executive Director
> National Center for Open Source and Education
> On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Marilyn Hagle wrote:
> > Joel and James,
> > Oh my . . . state testing and bureaucratic straitjackets! Don't
> > get me
> > started!
> > And also the dumb ass proprietary software packages that promise
> > miracles
> > (forgive me - I am originally from Iowa where we are plain spoken
> > folks) -
> > that's another topic.
> > Getting my students to be creative has been more of a stretch this
> > year than
> > ever before. They have spent all of their time in school preparing
> > for
> > tests. I feel like I need to bring my little kids' building blocks
> > and
> > just let them play.
> > And rural Texas schools do not believe in the importance of
> > offering fine arts
> > courses. Very few schools have choir. Art classes are minimal.
> > Band is
> > sometimes required for football programs. :)
> > So, I think you just need to do what you can, wherever you can, for
> > as long as
> > you can. This year I am using Linux for everything and having a
> > blast - but I
> > know I make some people nervous.
> > Hey . . . what do you think about hosting a fine arts gallery for
> > student work
> > created with FOSS? Have we talked about this already? I am not
> > big into
> > contests where there is only one winner . . . but a celebration of
> > student
> > achievement with some positive critiques. I could send you some
> > pretty cool
> > student generated Blender, Gimp, and Cinelerra files - then to the
> > local people
> > we can say "look at this!"
> > Maybe we need a formal online school that home school kids and
> > rural schools
> > can
> > afford that teaches music, art, science, poetry and general
> > creativity.
> > James . . . your additional comments on the dumbing down of ed tech
> > (whew!)
> > really sum it up. That quest for power thing screwed us. Is it
> > just the
> > natural sequence of organizational evolution?
> > To be fair, we all know there are many good people in the group too
> > - but it is
> > definitely a mixed bag.
> > And yes . . . "But the brown sugar is in reality an artificially
> > sweetened
> > hypnotic cleverly designed to make the worms more palatable." LOL :)
> > Thanks for letting me ramble on philosophically.
> > Marilyn
> > Quoting Joel Kahn <jj2kk4@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >> Marilyn Hagle wrote:
> >>> Many in educational IT management - probably the
> >>> middle managers who are misunderstood and struggling
> >>> to keep everything running - are concerned about
> >>> tightly controlling the teachers. After all . . .
> >>> they have been breaking copyright laws, pirating
> >>> software, and inviting viruses and spyware into the
> >>> LAN. So now teachers everywhere are in lock-down mode.
> >>> Experimentation is thwarted, new ideas are discouraged,
> >>> and creativity is scorned.
> >> And let's not forget atrocities like the No Child Left
> >> Behind Act, which forces teachers *and* students into
> >> bureaucratic straitjackets and makes it incredibly hard
> >> to even think about changing anything. A proprietary
> >> software package that is marketed with wild promises of
> >> a "guarantee to boost scores on standardized tests" has
> >> a big edge over any wild and risky creative things like
> >> GIMP or Tux Paint. If you allow those misbehaving kids
> >> and teachers to start really experimenting with any
> >> truly flexible software, who knows what kind of trouble
> >> we all might be getting ourselves into. . . .
> >> Joel
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