Re: [school-discuss] Off-Topic (sort of): Reasons not to use Google Docs for Education?

["Mr. Klock" <math@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

That said, Google *does* have a business section that will contract with districts to house Google software on locally-owned servers (my district was moving towards this, but had trouble getting out of our existing contract with another vendor, First Class).  The deal we cut was apparently quite good: a modest fee to Google for use of their mail, docs, and other messenging/collaboration tools, along with vendor support, and a very different set of Terms of Service (giving our district ownership of materials created and stored on our servers).  

Obviously, in this forum, we'd rather be talking about open source systems that will give us the same things we wanted from Google, but our reality (with over 400,000 students and 40,000 teachers in over 400 buildings) is that we need something Enterprise scale, with rock-solid support...



On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Dirk Schouten wrote:

> David Bucknell wrote:
>> Side-tracked by the juggernaut that is Google ...
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> I know many of you have been through this and that there's a lot out
>> there on this, but, as I value your perspectives, I'd love to hear
>> them: why not Google Apps (and mail) for schools?
>> If you've got an experience or a comment, I'd be grateful to read it.
>> Thank you,
>> David
> Hello David,
> Translated from one of our newsletters:
> BIC nieuwsbrief : week 38 - 2010  : OBS ROSA BOEKDRUKKER] http://rosaboekdrukker.net
> (public primary school)
> 
> Google Terms of Service. article 2:
> 
> 2.3 You may not use the Services and may not accept the Terms if (a) you are not of legal age to form a binding contract with Google, or (b) [snip].
> 
> Please read the Google Terms of Service - article 11:
> 
> 11. Content licence from you
> 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. [snip]
> 
> 11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organisations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services. [snip]
> 
> Using Goole mail, docs or whatever is penny wise and pound foolish for any self respecting educational institution.
> 
> With many thanks to our schools system administraor who did all the fact finding.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Dirk
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