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RE: [school-discuss] Becta feedback
Robert,
Can you please assist me, I don't know any more what to ask !!!
I can't tell them what gcompris does in what they call 'NC terms'.
I need the help of a british person to pursue this action. Alone, I go
in the wall.
In general, If I can reference gcompris in england, I would not be abble
to do so in a country I don't speak the language.
I believe it is more a task for LUGs and local free software in
education group to record free edu app in these kind of systems.
Bruno.
Le ven 31/05/2002 à 14:31, Robert J Gautier a écrit :
>
> As one of the designers of the BESD system, I'm a little surprised
> by BECTa's response. BESD is publisher-maintained; you should be
> able to register as a software publisher and enter details of your
> software package directly into BESD, for review by BECTa. As a part
> of the data entry process, you will be expected to link your package
> to curriculum topics and Key Stages that it addresses. If you can't
> do that I'd expect BECTa to resist publishing your data, of course.
> My surprise is that BECTa didn't explain this to you.
>
> It is of course possible that gcompris is a type of educational
> software that doesn't fit BESD's model of the universe -- although
> software of general applicability *can* be represented in the
> database.
>
> So, perhaps you asked the wrong question? Try asking to register as
> a publisher?
>
> Bob G
>
> On Wed, 29 May 2002, Chris Puttick wrote:
>
> > Teachers in the UK are being expected to do less and less work by
> > government. As your package does not fit neatly into the UK
> national
> > curriculum (i.e. you haven't pre-defined for them what the package
> does in
> > NC terms), they're not (with some notable exceptions) going to be
> > interested. Given the position of BECTa,they really should take
> the time to
> > evaluate these packages, but don't.
> >
> > Has anyone had something excepted? My contributions were also
> turned down I
> > will be raising the issue with BECTa, but an ex-BECTa employee now
> employed
> > by RedHat may be of more assistance in this area, as I do not know
> who to
> > target. Malcolm?
> >
> > I forwarded your exchange to a UK based list that may have people
> better
> > placed to define gcompris in NC terms.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruno Coudoin
> > To: Schoolforge
> > Sent: 5/29/02 1:31 PM
> > Subject: [school-discuss] Becta feedback
> >
> > I asked BECTA to include gcompris in their database.
> > They refused and I don't understand why.
> > Could somebody explain me why, below is the trace of our email
> exchange.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Bruno.
> >
> > -----------------
> > Dear Bruno,
> >
> > Many thanks for your recent message regarding an entry on the
> Becta
> > Educational Software Database.
> >
> > In order to meet the criteria of the Becta Educational Software
> > Database, we
> > do ask that any materials referenced through the service are not
> just
> > relevant to subjects studied in the UK, but that they are also
> > appropriate
> > for the English National Curriculum. Therefore unfortunately we
> are
> > unable
> > to include this product on BESD.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Becta Educational Sofware Database Team
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruno Coudoin [SMTP:bruno.coudoin@free.fr]
> > > Sent: 28 May 2002 14:07
> > > To: besd
> > > Subject: RE: gcompris proposal
> > >
> > > I am french and not a teacher neither part of the french
> > education
> > > system so I can't give you any cross reference between
> gcompris
> > and
> > > the
> > > British Curiculum.
> > > What I can tell you is that in france, gcompris is used in
>
> > school
> > > for
> > > what is called Cycle 2 which is about 5, 6 and 7 years
> old.
> > >
> > > Gcompris includes a large number of activities and you can
> also
> > > check by
> > > yourself how suitable it may be for your organisation.
> > >
> > > For My official contact information, I am M. Bruno
> Coudoin, my
> > > personal
> > > adress is 6:
> > > Rue des Amandiers 31700 Blagnac France.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time evaluating gcompris.
> > >
> > > Also, please consider that as a free software, gcompris
> can be
> > > improved
> > > by your organisation itself or by asking a third party
> software
> > > engineering company with no license cost. You can also ask
> me
> > for
> > > changes and improvement but since it is a non paid
> project, it
> > can take times.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Bruno.
> > >
> > >
> > > Le mar 28/05/2002 à 11:53, besd a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks for your recent enquiry regarding the Becta
> > > Educational Software
> > > > Database (BESD - http://besd.becta.org.uk).
> > > >
> > > > BESD aims to provide an independent, comprehensive
> on-line
> > > database for
> > > > educational software for the schools market. The
> database
> > > complements the
> > > > roles of the National Grid for Learning (NGfL -
> > > http://www.ngfl.gov.uk) and
> > > > the Virtual Teacher Centre (VTC -
> http://vtc.ngfl.gov.uk),
> > which
> > > provide a
> > > > signposting service to web based content and resources.
> BESD
> > > currently
> > > > provides a mechanism for teachers and support
> organisations to
> > > find
> > > > curriculum-based software which can be purchased on
> disk, CD
> > ROM
> > > or DVD ROM,
> > > > or downloaded from the web. Subscription on-line
> services
> > where
> > > internet
> > > > access is required for use are not included. Can you
> please
> > > inform us what
> > > > National Curriculum subjects your software covers, and
> supply
> > us
> > > with full
> > > > contact details.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Becta Educational Software Database team
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bruno Coudoin [SMTP:bruno.coudoin@free.fr]
>
> > > > > Sent: 27 May 2002 18:21
> > > > > To: besd@becta.org.uk
> > > > > Subject: gcompris proposal
> > > > >
> > > > > I am the author of gcompris
> > > (http://ofset.sourceforge.net/gcompris)
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a freeware education application (Under the
> GPL
> > > License).
> > > > >
> > > > > Please, consider including it in your database.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruno.
> > > > >
>
>
>