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Re: [school-discuss] Knoppix vs. Freeduc vs. ??? (fwd)
Responses from a tech friend in India. FN
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Animesh N Nerurkar wrote:
> Hi rico,
>
> On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:51, Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote:
>
> > Banduji, you're the expert... FN
>
> that's a lie -i've been framed -just like roger rabbit !
>
> > I need to load an OS on these machines for very basic use in
> > computer literacy at the orphanage's school. There have been
> > discussions on the list about both Knoppix and Freeduc, but I have no
> > experience with either.
>
> no problem
>
> > ... it would be nice if
> > they could go on the hard drives for faster response.
>
> see procedure below for steps to follow.
>
> > Which is less demanding of resources? That is, what's the minimum size hard
> > drive and minimum amount of memory to get reasonable performance?
>
> both require roughly the same amount of disk space to install -1800 MB, but
> install will not commence unless 2200 MB disk space is available.
>
> FreEduc requires less RAM as RAM hungry s/w like KDE and Gnome have been
> removed from the distro.
>
> minimum RAM for reasonable performance: 128 MB
>
> > Also, does either or both offer the option for Spanish?
>
> sorry, i didn't test this but, theoretically it is supported ...see below.
>
> install FreEduc to hard disk:
>
> Assumed: you know how to partition a disk with cfdisk -the standard
> partitioning tool with FreEduc and knoppix.
>
> when the CD boots upto the boot prompt, hit the <F3> key to see the
> available language options.
>
> common procedure to install knoppix / FreEduc on hard disk:
>
> Steps:
> 1) boot from the CD till you get the boot prompt.
> 2) FreEduc:
> hit <F3> to get the list of knoppix options.
>
> knoppix:
> hit <F2> to get the list of knoppix options.
>
> ...it looks like this:
> knoppix lang=us (or de es fr it pl ru) Use specified language/keyboard
> knoppix desktop=gnome (or twm larswm wmaker) Use specified WM instead of KDE
> knoppix screen=1280x1024 Use specified Screen resolution for X
> knoppix xserver=XFree86 Use specified X-Server
> knoppix xmodule=vesa Use specified XFree4-Module
> knoppix xvrefresh=60 Use 60 Hz vertical refresh for X
> knoppix 2 Runlevel 2, Textmode only
> knoppix floppyconfig Run "knoppix.sh" from a floppy
> knoppix no{scsi,pcmcia,usb,agp,dma,swap} Skip SCSI/PCMCIA/USB/AGP/swap
> det.
> knoppix noeject Do NOT eject CD after halt
> knoppix-txt No framebuffer at startup
> knoppix blind brltty=driver Start Braille-Terminal (no X)
> expert Interactive setup
>
> 3) type the options at the boot prompt so that it looks something like this;
>
> <english>
> knoppix lang=us screen=1024x768 xserver=vesa <enter>
>
> <spanish>
> knoppix lang=es screen=1024x768 xserver=vesa <enter>
>
> ...now wait till FreEduc boots up to the GUI desktop (XFCE)
>
> Note:
> 1) if the GUI does not appear, reboot the machine, repeat steps 1 to 3 -and
> experiment with the screen, xserver and xmodule options of knoppix listed
> under <F3> -do not proceed to step 4 till you are satisified with the
> results of these steps.
>
> 2) if "vesa" doesn't work, use "fbdev" as a second option.
>
> Tip: try getting the system to boot without manually specifying too many
> details, let it detect them automatically.
>
> 4) open a term window and run the command:
>
> $ sudo /usr/local/bin/knx-hdinstall <enter>
>
> Note: the rest of the install procedure is menu driven and in german !
>
> reboot from hard disk and enjoy :)
>
> Advanced Tip: FreEduc and knoppix, both make and use ext2fs by default. you
> can change this if you are adventurous :) -steps are as follows:
>
> we can't hack the original install script as it's on the CD, but we can copy
> the file to the ramdisk and then hack the copy.
>
> 1) make a copy of all files in /usr/local/bin/ as follows:
>
> $ cp /usr/local/bin/* / <enter>
>
> this copies 2 files too the root (ramdisk)
> 1) init
> 2) knx-hdinstall
>
> we will hack the second file...
>
> open /knx-hdinstall with your favourite text editor (i used vim)
>
> $ sudo vi /knx-hdinstall <enter>
>
> look for a line that says something like "mke2fs" and change it to "mkfsext3"
>
> 3) now, run this install file with the command;
>
> $ sudo /knx-hdinstall <enter>
>
> this should do the trick.
>
> all the best ...and i'm just an email away if you need any more help.
>
> ciao
> banduji
>
>
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