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Re: [school-discuss] The end of Red Hat support



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On Wednesday 05 November 2003 16:04, Manuel Gutierrez Algaba wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 	Anyway, I personally don't care about Suse or Red Hat. 

Neither do I, debian only, although I tried gentoo for half a year and dropped 
it recently. I recommend SuSE for newbies and people who want to reduce admin 
time in favour of productivity. I would never ever again use it at home, 
because I love APT and I am a command line junkie[1]. If there was plenty of 
expert time available, I would probably not recommend SuSE, because other 
distributions might have better solutions for some problems. But - hey! We're 
talking about teachers, aren't we? ;-)

> It's not only
> Mandrake, Debian, the thousands of installations of Linex or
> Guadalinex...
> There're hundreds of other distros :Esware, Aurox,...

I think the big players are not a bad choice at all. My personal preferences 
aside, what's important in a school context?

- - A responsive community
- - Commercial support might as well be good
- - Speed and ease of setup and maintenance.

Questions could be: 

- - Will I be the only admin? Is this about to change?
- - How many machines? Old ones, or powerful ones?
- - If we are talking about desktops, will the kids be able to set up a similar 
machine at home?

>
> 	Even bribing CEOs you'll never stop the Linux movement. 

That's so true. 

> What's
> necessary is institutional and enterprise support. And we already have
> that with IBM, Hp and many national, regional and local governments.

Which will obviously go to the major distributions, correct me if I am wrong.

> 	Micshit should spend its money better instead of bribing people.

I think they don't need advice, they need some time to fade away, that's all.
But that is way too OT, I think.

Regards, 
- - Burkhard

[1]: Well, there is a curses version of YaST, actually. 

> ---
> mga
>
> Linux, the other OS, the one that is not only stable when the computer
> is turned off.
>
> El mié, 05 de 11 de 2003 a las 16:05, Daniel Guermeur escribió:
> > Suse is also our preference and for two reasons: Yast is a good system to
> > manage software installs and updates (supports network updates too) and
> > Suse OS stability: when they release a new version it works, as opposed
> > to other leading distrib where main new version e.g. 8.0 or 9.0 just
> > brings you lots of troubles...
> >
> >
> > --
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net
> > > [mailto:owner-schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net]On Behalf Of Burkhard
> > > Woelfel
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:56 AM
> > > To: schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [school-discuss] The end of Red Hat support
> > >
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> > > On Wednesday 05 November 2003 15:11, Bob Sewell wrote:
> > > >  From a standpoint of a school... does anyone have recommendations
> > > > for another distro to consider?  I'm considering SUSE because the pro
> > > > version comes with 8 CDs, containing all of the software to have ever
> > > > been tested with it.  Also YAST seems to be an ideal way to manage
> > > > programs within.  Hey, has anyone else noticed the Novell component
> > > > that is also within the YAST menu?  Hmmm....  inclusion is
> > > > everything.
> > > >
> > > > Distro recommendations welcomed.  Thanks.  :-)
> > >
> > > In my opinion SuSE is very easy to maintain. Hardware detection
> > > is very good,
> > > the 9.0 Pro version is 5 CDs and seems to be slightly better than the
> > > previous version. No reason for a major version number, but improved
> > > nonetheless.
> > >
> > > YaST is a very good tool to have, it will manage just about
> > > everything. Even
> > > Linux newbies won't have lots of problems doing admin jobs, that's a
> > > good feature for the school context.
> > >
> > > I don't know about setting up dozens of machines with SuSE,
> > > because almost
> > > everything _has_ to be done with YaST. Manual config editing can
> > > be painful,
> > > because SuSE has it's own way to do things sometimes. I wouldn't want
> > > to script a mass installation process with that distro... :-)
> > >
> > > But there has to be a tool available for stuff like that, for
> > > YaST is actually
> > > scriptable via --option-flags. YaST can be used remotely too,
> > > just as any X
> > > app.
> > >
> > > Check it out. SuSE is proving Szulik to be completely wrong.
> > >
> > > - - Burkhard
> > >
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