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RE: [school-discuss] Philosophy: Teachers with Admin Privileges or Not



For the past three years, I've been utilizing Live CDs in my classes. Works very well. The primary Live CD that I use is Knoppix. Choose Knoppix because their were reference books available. Started with Version 3.4, currently use Version 5.1.1.

For labs, my students use GIMP to capture the screens that demonstrate that they have met the lab objectives. During the lab period, they upload the images to Goggle Docs. This becomes their "electronic lab notebook". Later during the week, they add text to connect the images, and this becomes their lab narrative.

For the last two years, I've implemented a remastering activity. I've had mixed results with that. But I'm going to keep trying it. One of the goals is to have the students place a class portfolio on the remastered CD.

In my environment, Live CDs require no support. Which is a good thing as my students refer to the central support group as the "no support people." 

Best of luck,
Uno



> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:30:31 +0300
> From: mike@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [school-discuss] Philosophy: Teachers with Admin Privileges or Not
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 09:43:17PM -0700, marilyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > I think all student stations should be run with live CD/DVDs or
> > other bootable media. Data should be saved on flash drives or
> > whatever (network storage would be OK too). I think that
> > student stations should not have OSs installed on them at all.
> >
> > There should be numerous choices of live CDS. They should be
> > topical according to subject area. They should include every
> > possible relevant available Open Source Software Package. They
> > should already be setup to see the available printers or
> > network account directories. They should not include any
> > system administration type software that could cause mischief
> > anywhere.
>
> It's all doable with virtualized terminal server as well, we've
> been migrating from LTSP4 in one VPS to LTSP5 in another one
> on-the-fly (for some time both were active and used).
>
> There's need to provide either client-side boot menu or
> server-side configuration utility which would reconfigure DHCP
> to point different (or all) clients to their LTSP instances but
> at least it's all doable (and netboot+TS is more complicated
> still also more robust than CD shuffle...).
>
> Overall: thanks for interesting ideas, list members; I'm
> archiving the discussion but don't know if/when we're to get
> to it, even if we're quite interested in helping universities
> and schools in Ukraine with getting free software based education
> in place.
>
> > One of the main reasons I did not go with live CDs this year is
> > that they all have too many mischief causing applications on
> > them and I do not have the time and/or expertise to make my
> > own.
>
> Recently even major distros started to provide tools to remaster
> a LiveCD, and some more obscure (like ALT Linux project I
> participate in) provided these for years.
>
> > It is almost midnight and I still have to finish my lesson
> > plans. Gotta go.
>
> Thanks and good luck!
>
> > The thin client thing is cool . . . but I would like this system better.
>
> Well, thin client can be a bit more diverse too.
>
> PS: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/SuccessStories#LTSP_inside_OpenVZ_on_Woodcrest
>
> --
> ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
> ---- Oct 26--27, Kiev, Ukraine:
> -- http://conference.osdn.org.ua


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