it was John's frustrations to which I referred,
looks like you, Chris, are pretty skilled. I was
following the thread. I'm interested in knowing
what is holding people back currently and hope
to help out.
distros are much better this year than last,
and vastly easier to use than two years ago.
On Sep 22, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Chris Gregan wrote:
Hmmm...frustrations...gee...For me the frustrations ended, as far as
install goes, with this last wave of distro releases. Ubuntu,
fedora, opensuse, and Gentoo have all produced some excellent
installers. Configuration after the fact is where I found the most
difficulty. Flash, Java, multimedia playback and manipulation are
the stumbling block these days. If I were to begin a list of all my
frustrations with all the various distros I am running, we would be
here a long time. :-) Contact me offline with some parameters on
what you would like to know, specifically. If possible focusing on a
single distro. I would be happy to provide a list of roadblocks for
that distro.
Chris Gregan
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jim stockford wrote:
i'm interested in getting a record of your frustrations with
the intent of documenting the steps one must take to
achieve an install.
I want to note that i have a lot of experience documenting
Linux and other *n?x installations. my work in this would
be available to anyone (i.e. "free" and "open").
On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:58 PM, Chris Gregan wrote:
John,
I ,and many other members here, would be happy to help. You are
exactly the user I referred to, and thank you for voicing your
position. We, as open source/Linux advocates, sometimes forget
that there is a vast potential user base for Linux tools in
education that are frustrated by the existing proprietary
environments, but lack the "guru" like knowledge to implement a
fully functional solution without hours of wasted time and
frustration.
I have recommended open source solutions to hundreds of teachers
and administrators through my company and here through the list,
but without a means of integrating the suggestions easily into the
lessons, the suggestion is meaningless.
I would be happy to provide guidance in the creation of a disk for
your needs either through this list or privately. Let me know what
you are looking for, application-wise, and I'm sure a solution
could be found that would meet your need.
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John Frank wrote:
cgregan@xxxxxxxxxxx,
I agree here. I do not have the time to DIY linux. It is why I
don't use linux. I downloaded a few livecds and tried to use
them, but just about the time I get everything set up the way I
need it, I make a mistake and have to start all over.
After about two months, I gave up, and hope someday to find
something that works.
Maybe someone here could help?
Thank you.
John
----------------------------------------> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007
17:23:20 -0400> From: cgregan@xxxxxxxxxxx> To:
schoolforge-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re:
[school-discuss] Live CD: DIY vs. Distribution>> Ben,>
Well....yes I am aware of how easy it is, but do not forget that
many of> the members of this list are not quite as Linux savvy as
some. So the> prospect of fiddling around in the command line is,
frankly, scary. I> think the promotion of a Live CD that
demonstrates the technology we> discuss here would be a boon for
the list, and may grow the ranks of> non-technical people who
want to know more.>> Chris Gregan> Open Source
Consultant/Founder> Aptenix LLC Desktop Solutions> New Market MD
21774> cgregan@xxxxxxxxxxx> 240-422-9224>> "Open source, open
minds.">> This message is confidential, intended only for the
named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged
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dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is
strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error or are
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the fax address or telephone number above and delete this
message. Thank you.>>>> Ben Armstrong wrote:>> On Sat, 22 Sep
2007 12:59:01 -0400>> Chris Gregan wrote:>>>>> I wonder if we
could draw up some type of pole on the site. Members>>> could
request Live CD programs to be included, and the top ones could
be>>> ripped to an ISO monthly and posted on the site for
download.>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you're getting how easy this is
for people to do themselves.>> There needn't be any poll, nor any
download. For example:>>>> $ sudo apt-get install live-helper>> $
mkdir mylivecd>> $ cd mylivecd>> $ lh_config -p gnome --packages
"gcompris tuxpaint">> $ sudo lh_build>>>> When lh_build is
finished, you will have a binary.iso in the current>> directory
with a gnome desktop and your two extra packages in it. The>>
tool also supports a rich set of options to configure every
aspect of>> the build. See some examples here:>>>>
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Examples>>>>>>> Good to
know...I smell an Ubuntu custom CD tool announcement coming>>>
soon! :-)>>>>>>> Well, it's the same tool:>>>> $ lh_config --mode
ubuntu && sudo lh_build>>>> Ben>> -->> ,-. nSLUG
http://www.nslug.ns.ca synrg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> \`' Debian
http://www.debian.org synrg@xxxxxxxxxx>> ` [ gpg 395C F3A4 35D3
D247 1387 2D9E 5A94 F3CA 0B27 13C8 ]>> [ pgp 7F DA 09 4B BA 2C 0D
E0 1B B1 31 ED C6 A9 39 4F ]>>>>
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