Re: [seul-edu] ISO & documentation...

[Matt Drew <mdrew@redhat.com>]

Doug Loss wrote:
> "Stephen C. Daukas" wrote:
> 
> 
>>Is there a list of who is doing what?  Any ideas on what the CVS structure
>>should look like?  Anyone make any progress on an installer (I thought I
>>saw someone asking Blue Tooth about this)?  Do we think there will be
>>development, or do we think there is enough already out there that this
>>becomes a packaging issue only?
> 
> 
> I haven't formally drawn up a list yet, but I'm keeping all the email that people
> send me saying they'll take part.  By next week or so I'll put it all together and
> start asking people to take on actual "work" assignments.  Matt mentioned
> something about Blue Linux's installer, but (forgive me) I don't remember what.
> Matt Drew from RedHat contributed these:
> 
> http://www.seul.org/edu/installer-1.0.10-1.src.rpm
> http://www.seul.org/edu/autorun
> 
> I was waiting for Matt to make the announcement of them, but I think it got lost
> in the shuffle.

Heh -- just saw this.  It didn't get lost, I just spent all day in 
Haywood County yesterday with Michael Williams learning how things are 
done there, and was slack about sending the announcement.  It's sent 
now.  :)

Matt



> As for development, I think that's for the individual projects to do on their own
> software.  Of course, if you want to help one project or another develop their
> apps, feel free.  But for our ISO we need to take the apps as presented, decide to
> include them or not, and then package them.  At least that's the way I see it.
> 
> 
>>My questions may be premature (and you don't have to answer each one), but
>>I want to get an idea of where to jump in and when.  Also, my new school
>>(where I'm teaching an elective) ends in just a couple of weeks (college
>>schedule), so if I am to try to get local resources for development, etc.,
>>then I need to move on this quickly.
> 
> 
> The very first thing that we need to do is to go over the apps we currently list
> and evaluate them for inclusion.  Some will obviously not apply; some obviously
> will.  It's the ones in the fuzzy middle area that will take some consideration.
> There are ~440 apps listed in our index.  We need to divide them up equitably and
> have actual educators look at each of them and think about their utility in the
> schools.
> 
> 
>>I think we could get along very well with a killer HOW-TO for education
>>that addresses system administration issues, etc., with suggested
>>configuration options for small, medium, and large scale schools.  We
>>should also include instructions for using the bundled educational software
>>(whatever that ends up being) in each of those three settings.
> 
> 
> The sysadmin doc is certainly doable.  Instructions for using the bundled apps
> could be a tall order if they aren't already written.  Writing clear,
> understandable documentation isn't a trivial task.  If we have people here
> interested in helping but who are neither educators nor coders, they might
> consider taking up this aspect of the project.
> 
> 
>>What made me think of this is the work I've done in teaching a Linux Course
>>this term.  I based the course on several sources of information from those
>>who have done this before (thanks again!). [snip]
>>
>>Given the success of the class is completely based on walking through
>>existing documentation (books, HOW-TOs, etc.), might it seem plausible to
>>explore this route?
> 
> 
> TJ Miller wrote something like this (it's on the SEUL/edu website somewhere; poke
> at me and I'll find it).  Perhaps you and he can collaborate on it.
> 
> --
> Doug Loss                 All I want is a warm bed
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> dloss@bloomu.edu                Ashleigh Brilliant
> 
> 
> 



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