Re: [tor-relays] Reaching out to webiron

[Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 02/08/2017 11:25 AM, DaKnOb wrote:
> So less than 24 hours after the previous post and someone,
> mysteriously, subscribed the abuse mailbox to > 2,000 newsletters..
> Of course I do not have proof nor am interested on who’s behind this
> and it didn’t cause any bad, just good (gave me plenty of data to
> research). Also, it seems every time I tweet about Web Iron, more
> e-mails arrive. The people behind this “attack” didn’t even bother
> to hide their IPs.. I thought they could use Tor to at least make
> me think Tor is evil and bad and I should block it.. :-)

How many IPs? That behavior screams "botnet" to me :)

> Anyways.. Yeah.. Web Iron seems aggressive in their replies.
> 
> Antonios 
> 
>> On 08 Feb 2017, at 16:42, Ralph Seichter <tor-relays-ml@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On 08.02.2017 08:03, Andrew Deason wrote:
>>
>>> WebIron is well aware of what tor is, and they seem to have an issue
>>> with the tor network in general, not my specific node.
>>
>> I have had an e-mail conversation with a Webiron employee. I don't want
>> to give details without permission, but in a nutshell, this was what I
>> understood:
>>
>> Webiron is indeed completely aware of what Tor is. Webiron thinks that
>> the abuse via Tor outweighs privacy concerns. Webiron is unwilling to
>> exclude Tor exits from their automated checks, and is also unwilling to
>> mitigate the perceived problem on their end.
>>
>> I'd like to add that the tone of the e-mails I received was quite
>> aggressive, threatening "blocking your whole business". I pointed out
>> this mailing list, but I have not heard any feedback beyond that.
>>
>> After several months of automated complaints, I feel that I have not
>> much choice, and I am now ignoring Webiron completely.
>>
>> -Ralph
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