Re: [tor-relays] Reaching out to webiron

[DaKnOb <daknob@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Two IPs in the US, one is FiOS.. I'm thinking they didn't even bother to hide, but that may be the case, sure. The FiOS IP is static. 


> On 9 Feb 2017, at 08:19, Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/08/2017 11:25 AM, DaKnOb wrote:
>> So less than 24 hours after the previous post and someone,
>> mysteriously, subscribed the abuse mailbox to > 2,000 newsletters..
>> Of course I do not have proof nor am interested on who’s behind this
>> and it didn’t cause any bad, just good (gave me plenty of data to
>> research). Also, it seems every time I tweet about Web Iron, more
>> e-mails arrive. The people behind this “attack” didn’t even bother
>> to hide their IPs.. I thought they could use Tor to at least make
>> me think Tor is evil and bad and I should block it.. :-)
> 
> How many IPs? That behavior screams "botnet" to me :)
> 
>> Anyways.. Yeah.. Web Iron seems aggressive in their replies.
>> 
>> Antonios 
>> 
>>> On 08 Feb 2017, at 16:42, Ralph Seichter <tor-relays-ml@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 08.02.2017 08:03, Andrew Deason wrote:
>>> 
>>>> WebIron is well aware of what tor is, and they seem to have an issue
>>>> with the tor network in general, not my specific node.
>>> 
>>> I have had an e-mail conversation with a Webiron employee. I don't want
>>> to give details without permission, but in a nutshell, this was what I
>>> understood:
>>> 
>>> Webiron is indeed completely aware of what Tor is. Webiron thinks that
>>> the abuse via Tor outweighs privacy concerns. Webiron is unwilling to
>>> exclude Tor exits from their automated checks, and is also unwilling to
>>> mitigate the perceived problem on their end.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to add that the tone of the e-mails I received was quite
>>> aggressive, threatening "blocking your whole business". I pointed out
>>> this mailing list, but I have not heard any feedback beyond that.
>>> 
>>> After several months of automated complaints, I feel that I have not
>>> much choice, and I am now ignoring Webiron completely.
>>> 
>>> -Ralph
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