Re: [tor-relays] plans to require ContactInfo to be non-empty

[Dave Warren <dw@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Perhaps it would be better to outright ban these relays with no warning? I'm sure that annoying those donating multiple relays will absolutely be encouraged to continue doing so.

(Or to be less sarcastic: I don't operate any tor relays at this time, but I do run public mirrors and a few other goodies and I'm eternally grateful to those that bother to notify me when there is a problem of any sort, especially configuration related -- I can't speak for tor relay operators, but I'm not sure that I'm seeing anything even in the same ballpark as harassment here)


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, at 11:12, s7r wrote:
> +1
> 
> It looks like harassment.
> 
> 
> Tyler Durden wrote:
> > +1
> > 
> > Good to know that I'm not the only one finding this behavior of him  wicked.
> > 
> > 
> > Emilian Ursu:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I was planning to bring up this issue but the other way around,
> >> ContactInfo, Nickname and Myfamily are non-enforceable so why
> >> should tor rely on spoofable information for its operation?
> >>
> >> I saw some discussions about contacting hosting providers to
> >> reach out to server operators and I see you harassing people
> >> often for not setting MyFamily and that is outrageous!
> >>
> >> A malicious actor will take the time to evade this policies so
> >> why bother at all, is tor getting designed for friendly or
> >> adversarial conditions?
> >>
> >> Your language, as seen in the Trabia-Network thread and other
> >> posts alike, seems to imply an undeserved authority position: 
> >> "please set MyFamily and contactInfo in your torrc                                                                                                   to avoid getting rejected"
> >>
> >> What? Rejected from what? Does one have to earn the right
> >> to commit time and resources for helping the network?
> >> Do relay operators need the tor network or is it the other way
> >> around? Maybe it's time for a reality check.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Emilian
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 09:25:00PM +0000, nusenu wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> due to some recent and ongoing events related
> >>> to a malicious entity running tor relays
> >>> I'll start to pursue an idea that I had 
> >>> for some time: require non-empty ContactInfo
> >>> (non-empty does not mean valid email address)
> >>>
> >>> This is primarily a non-technical policy discussion
> >>> which will take place on tor-dev@.
> >>>
> >>> If you want to help right away and currently
> >>> don't make use of the ContactInfo, please set it.
> >>>
> >>> If you think such a change would negatively affect you
> >>> please let me know (off-list is also fine if you prefer).
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> nusenu
> 
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