Re: [tor-relays] e@torworld tor relays: please specify 'MyFamily' in your torrc

[Paul <pa011@xxxxxx>]

I recently got this answer from "torworld.org" -see below.

They told me that a relay https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A6788321 with contact "e @torworld" is not operated by them.

As nusenu showed at the end of the message some days ago somebody with a similar contact address was running 5 at the time, currently 6 relays.

Some questions I like to ask:

Why is somebody running relays with the contact domain of another party?

Is there a way that mails ever reach e@xxxxxxxxxxxx?

Why not giving a correct MyFamily set-up when running 6 relays?

5 of 6 relays have a Guard status - let me remind on a recent discussion "How can we trust the guards?" ?

Regards Paul



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Subject: 	Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org
To: 	pa011 <pa011@xxxxxx>
From: 	Abuse TorWorld <abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 	Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:54:58 -0800



Hello,

This Exit node is not affiliated with us.

"https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A6788321";

All the nodes we'll operate will have this "abuse [AT] torworld.org - BTC 17iwdtpmgHdPt15twdT2sUcdeKgz9PTNMQ" In their contact info area, and when the website is back up. You can check to see a list of current Tor nodes we operate etc.

As for the MyFamily for the Guard/Middle nodes; Lunar operates/runs those.
So you'll have to get in contact with him if you want to talk about his MyFamily setup.


Take care,



On 1/10/2017 1:16 PM, pa011 wrote:
>
> Am 10.01.2017 um 21:01 schrieb nusenu:
>>
>> pa011:
>>> Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net,
>>> online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operators.txt
>>
>> https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes:
>>> Relays are aggregated based on effective families.
>> So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their
>> contactInfo.
>>
>> Maybe I should rename the files to main_..._families.txt
> Better would be a warning:  Family currently worth nothing !!
>
>
> torservers.net: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/ABF7FBF389C9A747938B639B20E80620B460B2A9 -> no one of the given family is blue, so yes the family seems wrong
>
>
> zwiebeln online de: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0E2773CF5609FD7FA52837E53DF4B0D47F0D15B7 -> all the family members are blue, counting 27 , which is slightly more than your 2 lines added together this morning
>
>
> torworld.org : https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A6788321 -> currently 12 big Exits - no Family given at all at https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/index.php


Am 15.01.2017 um 01:02 schrieb nusenu:
> Hi e AT torworld.org,
> 
> thanks for running 5 relays!
> 
> Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc
> configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator.
> 
> If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know.
> 
> thanks,
> nusenu
> https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor
> 
> +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+
> | contact             | nickname   | exit | eMyFamilyCount |
> +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+
> | e @ torworld.org    | Basil      |    1 |           NULL |
> | e AT TorWorld.org   | LOLHillary |    1 |           NULL |
> | e [AT] torworld.org | Cajun      |    0 |           NULL |
> | e [at] torworld.org | Gigi       |    1 |           NULL |
> | e@xxxxxxxxxxxx      | SurfingAOL |    1 |           NULL |
> +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+
> 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dangerous_relaygroups.txt
> 

> 
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