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Re: [tor-relays] question terms and conditions servdiscount
Short answer:
Keep away from any myLoc company.
They are Tor unfriendly and will shut down your server as soon as you
run Tor. And of course they will keep the money.
They kicked us even before we installed anything. Just because of our
domain name torservers.net
So please don't use them!
Juris Vetra
https://www.torservers.net/
Am 12.07.2015 um 18:46 schrieb fatal:
> Hello list,
>
> hopefully a (preferably german) lawyer is subscribed to this list.
>
> I was thinking of starting an exit-relay on a dedicated machine. The
> german company servdiscount offers very cheap machines with 1 gbit
> connection (500 mbit guaranteed). They don't mention tor in their terms
> and conditions but  10 worries me a bit (myLoc is the mother company of
> servdiscount):
>
> "The customer is obligated, to refrain from sending e-mails to third
> parties who have not consented to receipt beforehand or whose consent to
> receive cannot be inferred from other means. This likewise applies to
> sending postings in chats and/or forums. The customer promises to pay
> myLoc a contractual penalty in the amount of 5,100.00 Euro per incident
> in the event of culpable breach of this obligation under exclusion of
> the assumption of repeated offence."
>
> https://servdiscount.com/en/about-us/terms-and-conditions.html
>
> or in german:
>
> "10. Der Kunde ist verpflichtet, keine E-Mails an Dritte zu versenden,
> die dem Empfang nicht zuvor zugestimmt haben oder deren EinverstÃndnis
> zum Empfang nicht anderweitig vermutet werden kann. Dies gilt ebenfalls
> fÃr das Versenden von Postings in Chats und/oder Foren. Der Kunde
> verspricht fÃr jeden Einzelfall ein er schuldhaften Zuwiderhandlung
> gegen diese Verpflichtung unter Ausschluss der Annahme eines
> Fortsetzungszusammenhangs die Zahlung einer Vertragsstrafe in HÃhe von
> 5.100,00 Euro an myLoc. Die Geltendmachung weiterer AnsprÃche bleibt
> vorbehalten."
>
> https://servdiscount.com/ueber-uns/agb.html
>
> Would this condition apply in case a tor user would e. g. rant around in
> a forum? Or would beeing a provider keep me from paying 5.100,00 Euro
> (!) to myLoc?
>
> thanks!
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