Thus spake Moritz Bartl (tor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx): > I set up a preliminary homepage at http://www.torservers.net/ > > For the original discussion ("Tor Exit Node Sponsorship, looking for > partners") see http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/May-2010/msg00058.html > > Basically it comes down to: I want to run another high bandwidth Tor > exit and I am looking for individuals or companies to help sponsor it. > > To keep the noise down on OR-Talk/Tor-Relays, I have also created a > mailing list for "hosted tor exit" discussion. If you want to stay > informed, feel free to subscribe at http://www.freelists.org/list/torservers > > I am grateful for help, suggestions and other comments. Hi Moritz, I for one thing this is a great idea. I also welcome and encourage others to step up and try to start similar projects, once we have a good pattern down for a model that seems to work. However, a common problem with donation-run projects like this (and non-profits in general) is that everyone expects that the project will succeed because someone else will jump in before them and fund it/save it. Economists often call this the free-rider problem, but I think it is more closely related to "Diffusion of Responsibility": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility Because of these fundamental aspects of human nature, I think it is very important to set goals such as: "We will not start or maintain this project at the target level until/unless we have X months of future funding", where X is around 3 months initially, and ideally 6-12 months or more long term. I think its also very important for people to see what their level of dollar contribution gets them in terms of a percentage slice of exit bandwidth for the Tor network. At the volumes you will likely be purchasing bandwidth at, this is likely to be a very very compelling ratio. This financial data should be very public on your website. If the account balance ever drops below the level that can support roughly this many months of service, you should renegotiate your contract with your ISP to a level of service that you can support, and begin clamoring for more funding. Without this level of public accounting and public announcement of financial requirements, I imagine most people are just going to look at your site and assume "Well, that's nice. Best of luck, hope it works out for you!" and move on. I know, because that thought has been in the back of my mind (although I already spend quite a bit of my paycheck to support Tor-related infrastructure, so perhaps I am justified :). If instead it's clear to people that if they just donate that $10, $50, or $200, that it will make a significant impact to your service staying online for X amount of time with Y amount of additional capacity, they are way more likely to step forward. For what it's worth, the optimal one-time donation amount to request for addons.mozilla.org addons has been statistically determined to be $10. I'm not sure if the same psychological/political/financial dynamics will apply here, though. Your optimal requested donation amount may be higher or lower, depending upon the impact people believe they will have with that money, and any additional economies of scale you can present to them for donating more/reaching a higher level of total funding. -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs
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