Re: [tor-relays] Leaseweb exit relay notice

[Tim Semeijn <noc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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I forgot to mention the list of 'shitty blacklists' offers hardly any
way to request delisting when the event occurs an IP address gets
handed out to a different user. As far as I have seen SECTOOR belongs
on this list based on the fact that delisting is a pain.

On 5/21/15 10:35 PM, Tim Semeijn wrote:
> The lists of SECTOOR might be used wrongly but they sound like
> they belong to the ever growing list of 'shitty blacklists'. In my
> work for a hosting company I receive complaints regarding
> malpractices of such lists on a daily basis. For example there are
> lists who blacklist whole IP ranges based on generic rDNS (hello
> Spamrats Dyna). Being a company that sets rDNS to
> [IP-ADDRESS].companyname.tld for all non-used IP addresses you are
> basically fucked.
> 
> Most of these blacklists are actually used by parties who probably 
> started using them when these lists were not vigilante-like.
> 
> Hooray for shitty blacklists...
> 
> On 5/21/15 10:15 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:04:19PM +0200, Jurre van Bergen
>> wrote:
>>> I got the same message yesterday, I asked leaseweb to put our 
>>> exit node(hviv103) in a "dirty" ip-block and asked sectoor for
>>> a clarification on what happened. No reply to date of any
>>> party.
> 
>> Doesn't sectoor publish two lists, one which is just Tor exit IP
>>  addresses, and another which is the /24's around them? And then 
>> they encourage people to use the more conservative list, but of 
>> course they hint that using the broader list will catch more 
>> spammers?
> 
>> So it's possible that the answer is "some website somewhere on
>> the Internet is using sectoor's lists wrong". :/
> 
>> And in case you haven't read this lately (I read it every few 
>> months and it makes me freshly angry each time), here's your 
>> pointer to http://paulgraham.com/spamhausblacklist.html
> 
>> --Roger
> 
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Tim Semeijn
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