Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

[Virgil Griffith <i@xxxxxxxxx>]

>         You did that on purpose, right? You obviously knew the kind of
>         answers your question would generate.

I was hoping for responses like those from Dr. Syverson.  I was not
interested in debating the ethics or justification---simply what the
original funders were looking for / wishing to fund.

To summarize, the answer I got was: There was no explicit problem to
be solved, we just had this cool research idea and ONR was cool with
funding us to study it.  However, when we discussed the motivations
with managers we talked about mitigating leaks from things like "The
Pizza Channel" or enabling field-agents to covertly phone home.

-V

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Juan <juan.g71@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:41:18 +0800
> Virgil Griffith <i@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> I delegate this thread to tor-opentalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>         By the way, you started this thread here and now you want to
>         move it somewhere else?
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>         You did that on purpose, right? You obviously knew the kind of
>         answers your question would generate.
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>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Juan <juan.g71@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 07:16:43 +0300
>> > Cari Machet <carimachet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://youtu.be/qXajND7BQzk?t=27m40s
>> >>
>> >> here is on camera explanation of why the navy wants you to use
>> >> tor ... if YOU dont it wont work
>> >
>> >
>> >         Bingo.
>> >
>> >         If only the criminals from the americunt military and other
>> >         branches of government used some kind of 'secret' network,
>> > it wouldn't be secret at all. So they (have to) use other users as
>> >         cover. Sick - like everything the US government does.
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>> >>
>> >> syverson - the way it is portrayed here - worked at the naval lab
>> >> and developed the idea there
>> >>
>> >>
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