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Re: [tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum



On 2016-06-07 09:51, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Cari, I was raped twice.  Different guys, different countries, several
years between an event and other.

I am a small cute girl, even acting like an old grumpy lady.  Both were
much bigger than me. I have some sad scars. One of them burned my body
with cigarretes.  I was a teenager.  My tattoos hide part of my scars.

The second rape was pretty disturbing because he was my friend and I was sleeping. This guy has his own scars and traums now. I have lovely long
nails and I am not exactly a good person when defending my family and
friends.

Usually, I don't care so much about myself, but I was deeply in love with the sweetest man in the world and, in that moment, I remember I just wanted to live enough to tell him about my feelings. So I did everything I could
to survive.

I am still alive. I still love the sweetest man in the world, but now he
doesn't love me anymore.  It hurts much more than be raped, I swear.

Well, just told you part of my past, because I know very well what means being a victim and feel despair. I know, in a very intense and deep way,
what means to feel psychological and physical pain.  Believe me, I had
lovely experiences about harassment in different levels too.  I tried
suicide once, some months ago, because I just wanted to stop the pain. I
just wanted to sleep again.

After these experiences, I didn't learn how to hate men or cigarretes. I
learned why I need to hate lies.

Cecilia

PS: - Sorry, I crying a lot and my English probably is a shame, but if I try to correct the mistakes, I am sure I won't send this message anymore.
On Jun 7, 2016 10:05 AM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

all this shit talk on here is like why people dont come forward when raped

there was a suspension after tor received info about harassment before
(hint: that matters) and as i said the organization was not dealing with
this in any concrete way as they are now setting up protocol

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Cari Machet <carimachet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> not friendly cant read and doesnt know who andy greenberg is?
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:41 AM, Not Friendly <notfriendly@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> It's really bad now that the media took notice. This whole thing started
>> as a small memo on a mailing list. And now it blows into some big media
>> story. Jacob never had a chance to explain before the media started
writing
>> as many articles as possible. The writers of this article didn't even
>> attempt to contact Jacob himself but rather simply the site owners. If
your
>> going to present your self as a "reputable media outlet" then write
about
>> both sides of the story.
>>
>> --
>> Not Friendly
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:09 PM, ja.talk <ja.talk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>>
https://www.wired.com/2016/06/tor-developer-jacob-appelbaum-resigns-amid-sex-abuse-claims/
>> >
>> > Andy Greenberg
>> >
>> > Tor Developer Jacob Appelbaum Resigns Amid Sex Abuse Claims
>> >
>> > Jacob Appelbaum has courted controversy throughout his career as a
>> privacy and transparency activist, picking fights with several of the
>> worldâs most powerful government agencies over surveillance and state
>> secrecy. Now heâs at the center of an entirely different sort of
>> controversy: accused of rampant sexual and emotional abuse.
>> >
>> > On Saturday, the privacy-focused non-profit Tor Project where
Appelbaum
>> held a position as a developer and activist released a statement
explaining
>> that Appelbaum had resigned from his position with the group as a
result of
>> a series of âserious, public allegations of sexual mistreatmentâ made by
>> unnamed victims against 33-year-old Appelbaum. An anonymous website
>> collecting testimonials from those alleged victims published the same
day,
>> with five victims detailing claims that range from uninvited groping and
>> kissing to rape.
>> >
>> > On Monday morning, Appelbaum responded to the accusations in a
>> statement, calling them âa calculated and targeted attack [that] has
been
>> launched to spread vicious and spurious allegations against me.â He
added,
>> âI want to be clear: the accusations of criminal sexual misconduct
against
>> me are entirely false.â His publicist Claudia Tomassini responded to
>> WIREDâs request for comment from Appelbaum to say that his âlegal team
is
>> working on an injunction against these monstrous and factually incorrect
>> accusations.â
>> >
>> > WIRED couldnât independently verify the stories on the website created
>> by Appelbaumâs accusers, who used pseudonyms, nor determine the creator
of
>> the site itself. But Andrea Shepard, a Berlin-based developer co-worker
of
>> Appelbaumâs at the Tor Project, says the site was created by a âlongtime
>> member of the Tor communityâ whom she knows and trusts. Shepard also
says
>> sheâs spoken directly with one of Appelbaumâs alleged victims, who told
>> Shepard in February of this year that Appelbaum had raped him or her.
>> âSadlyâI think itâs the damn truth. Heâs a charismatic, socially
dominant
>> manipulator,â Shepard writes to WIRED. âI absolutely believe the
accusers.â
>> >
>> > Shepard says that Torâs management had suspected Appelbaum of sexual
>> misconduct for months. And the revelation of another alleged victim in
>> recent weeks had accelerated calls to force his resignation from the
>> organization, a push led by Torâs executive Director Shari Steele. The
Tor
>> Projectâs statement, written by Steele herself, echoed that timeline.
>> âThese types of allegations were not entirely new to everybody at Tor;
they
>> were consistent with rumors some of us had been hearing for some time.
That
>> said, the most recent allegations are much more serious and concrete
than
>> anything we had heard previously,â Steele writes. âWe are deeply
troubled
>> by these accounts.â
>> >
>> > Hacker Elite
>> >
>> > For years, Appelbaum has held near-rockstar status within the hacker
>> community. In 2010 he keynoted the HOPE hacker conference, outing
himself
>> as a collaborator with WikiLeaksâits only publicly known American
>> stafferâjust as it was ramping up its record-breaking Pentagon and State
>> Department leaks. (A Rolling Stone magazine profile a couple of months
>> later called him âthe most dangerous man in cyberspace.â)
>> >
>> > Likely as a result of his WikiLeaks work, Google and his internet
>> service provider Sonic.net received court orders demanding Appelbaumâs
>> communications as part of a grand jury investigation in 2011. Appelbaum
>> wasnât indicted, but has said that he was repeatedly harassed and
detained
>> at U.S. border crossings by agents of the Department of Homeland
Securityâs
>> Customs and Border Protection. To avoid run-ins with the American
>> government, he moved to Berlin. As a hacker exile heâs continued to work
>> for Tor and also contributed to the analysis and publication of NSA
leaker
>> Edward Snowdenâs classified documents, as well as other surveillance
>> investigations in the German newspaper Der Spiegel.1
>> >
>> > But Shepard, who also lives in Berlin, says she could see a pattern of
>> troubling behavior that led her to distance herself from Appelbaum. In
>> 2013, she recalls, Appelbaum told Shepard in a bar in front of another
>> colleague that he was going to have sex with her, using a misogynistic
>> phrase. In late 2014, she says he aggressively snatched a phone out of
her
>> hands at a hacker conference. And in the spring of last year she says he
>> was suspended from his position at Tor for two weeks without pay due to
a
>> harassment incident.
>> >
>> > A Familiar Pattern
>> >
>> > The scandalâs implications could go well beyond the Tor Project, which
>> maintains the highly-regarded Tor anonymity software. It also highlights
>> the broader hacker communityâs long-running problem with sexism and
sexual
>> harassment. The notion, as Torâs executive director Steele wrote, that
>> rumors about Appelbaum werenât new but had been ignored, portrays a
>> community that turns a blind eye to the inequality or even mistreatment
of
>> women. As University of Pennsylvaniaâs well-known computer security
>> professor Matt Blaze wrote on Twitter, âour community (larger than Tor)
>> failed badly here.â
>> >
>> > Torâs executive director Steele, meanwhile, urged in her note about
>> Appelbaum that anyone who thinks they may be a victim of criminal
behavior
>> should talk to law enforcement. âGoing forward, we want the Tor
community
>> to be a place where all participants can feel safe and supported in
their
>> work,â she added. âWe are committed to doing better in the future.â
>> >
>> > 1Correction 6/6/2016 9:55am EST: An earlier version of the story said
>> that Google and Sonic.net were subpoenaed for Appelbaumâs data in 2011,
>> when in fact they received a 2703(d) court order.
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You don't have to worry if your English isn't perfect. That's a very personal account of what happened to you.

As to:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Cari Machet <carimachet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> not friendly cant read and doesnt know who andy greenberg is?
>
I actually do have to ability read and write very proficient English.

In addition even if I'm using a pseudonym it would be considerate if the above writer of the quote to please spell my name correctly. It is spelled "Not Friendly" with capitals at the first of each time.

Especially if you choose to write something rather rude about me, please do so in a considerate manner.

As to Andy Greenberg (by the way just a reminder the first letter of names are capitalized in English) I apologize for not having details on every single human memorized. However from what I can find with a quick search he is a writer for "WIRED".

All of that being said my point was that the article stated that they couldn't determine the creator of the site yet made no attempt to contact Jacob and ask his side of the story.

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